Smoothybb Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 That's the thing, unless they've been abused, the mechanical bits should be okay or should be spotted on pics. Engines, even if you have a inside shot it won't tell you the full story. That smartech could have been 30 quid wasted but in the end I got more than 30 quids worth of fun from abusing it . Roller still sat on garage shelf, it'll cost more than 30 quid to sort though! Keep an eye on max bashing, they have some good kit in the f/sale section. Tends to be a bit higher quality stuff in general so expect to pay a bit more tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokuspokus Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 you a member on there aswell? am on it but this is a good forum i think and the R/C tech forum is good also,the guys quick at responding to your threads also which is good ,would like to get a hyper 7 at a good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokuspokus Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Tell me what ya think off this is it a bargain,how good are they? what do they mean by electric start,maybe silly to ask but am a dumbo when it comes to all this stuff http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Traxxas-Nitro-ELECTRIC-START-TRX-RC-radio-controlled-Petrol-Car-TRUCK-Buggy-/301231397198?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item4622ca594e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogger Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I paid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothybb Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) I don't think that Traxxas is a bargain really but I might be wrong. I don't like the ez-start system although I can see it's benefits but mainly a few photos and very few details other than "I can start it" always make me a bit shy. 2wd as well, I'd much rather have 4wd but each to their own. Good suggestion from Clogger about gumtree, the cunning in me thinks less likely to know true value of the car but more importantly you can see it running, make sure there's a nice trail of smoke, it's running on the right fuel and it runs as you would expect having watched some vids of the same model. Again, as Clogger says, if you can afford to lose 50 notes, gambling on a cheapy can pay off as an intro. If you want something that won't crumble on the first jump/flip, expect to pay a fair bit more. Hyper 7/ST, Losi, Mugen even a Hong Nor (although models and parts getting scarcer) should all be hardy bashers but there are plenty of other good models. Edited July 25, 2014 by Smoothybb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokuspokus Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 i'll give that a miss also as i like the 4wd better,not alot on gumtree forsale over here icould get one in the mainland if they would post it,another bargain car that someone has got great price clogger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothybb Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Ahh, yes, didn't spot your location. Makes it a bit trickier. Get what you pay for is fairly accurate in RC mostly, certainly when on ebay. Sometimes you can beat the saying tho. They other thing to remember is "Only needs...." always makes me think, why didn't you sort it then? Edited July 25, 2014 by Smoothybb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokuspokus Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 True What ya saying there,why didnt you sort it then dont know why guys run them into the ground then sell them and what you pay for the car and the parts you could prob ended up buying a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogger Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 They run them into the ground then sell on ebay stating 'running well last time out' and hope someone will bid a good price. They don't care how much it'll cost you to put it right, or even that they might be selling to someone wanting to try rc who knows next to nothing about it. My Rustler was advertised as a VXL by a woman selling it for her son, it has an aluminium chassis, a Castle motor and ESC, a Losi tx & rx and Losi servos, about the only VXL bit left is the body! I saw VXL and the price and thought I was getting a bargain, luckily it runs well and survived being submerged in a small pond but it aint VXL even if all the extras are worth more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothybb Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Thing is, as long as the description is correct on fleabay ie. quite loosely worded, not always easy to get your money back. Some people say spares or repairs and all it needs is a tune and a glo-plug. Others claim MG995 servos are 'hopped up parts' and comes with massive spares (that have been used to death). That's why I prefer rollers and hypers for projects because parts are cheap and everywhere. I'd hate to think I'd misled someone when describing an item for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogger Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I'm the same, as honest as possible when selling. I'd feel so guilty knowing I'd ripped someone off, pity there are so many out there who just don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokuspokus Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 I always try to get a bargain but usually end up paying top whack for something,explain to me what rollers are i see them on flea bay at a decent price ive no clue about all this,so i could end up buy rubbish and costing me loads to fix it etc,at least you guys explain yourselves very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokuspokus Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 i gave a guy in OZ earlier on a rare bmx F&F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogger Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Roller is a rolling chassis, no engine/motor and no electrics unless stated otherwise hence the good prices. Usually they include all the other mechanical bits such as diffs, gearbox, drive shafts, etc (please correct me if I'm wrong) so you need to factor in the cost of an engine/motor, servos, esc (if electric) and tx & rx unless of course you already have these parts from another car or spares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokuspokus Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 if i bought a roller god id need to bu all the stuff as no spares lying about me,wish i had loads of spares,be handy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothybb Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I have a weird fear that they'll receive it and think "That's not what he said it was". I sold some truggy tyres once, took the time to get a decent shot of the tread so buyers could see, explained they were as I received in a job lot, might need re-gluing, still ended up accepting them back as they weren't as well glued as I described. was gutted. A roller can vary tbh. I think a race roller is everything but an engine (and probably radio gear) so servos included. Some people describe a roller as the basic chassis and bits, but no engine, no servos no radio. I expect a roller to normally be chassis plus wheels, add your own radio, engine and servos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokuspokus Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 what else do people want you described it as it was etc,might look into a roller then see how much the rest would cost me.bet it be a good penny,if so that would mean i buy less tropical fish tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothybb Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Just noticed that losi roller on MB is Oh How Original off of here lol. Least he'd tell you the truth about it. Yeah it does help having spares around, you sometimes forget you've spent money on the bits needed to complete. Well, it helps me think of it as cheap Say a decent roller, 70 quid, 20 for a radio, another 40 (tops) for some servos that will get you going (new or better quality used) and then 80 quid ish for engine. You're paying more than rtr but you know you've got a spanking new engine that looked after, will last you for a while. Bad time to buy at the moment though. Everyone is out in the good weather not wanting to part with models. Come autumn, sales liven up a bit going into winter, prices don't hold as well etc. Edited July 25, 2014 by Smoothybb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogger Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 For my Rustler I found an old one locally on ebay that I managed to get for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokuspokus Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 I might use the 3 boys cars as spares save me break-in them in lol god they would do me in if i did that on them,so ya reckon to look for a roller then?what is a good roller to buy am on the bay looking here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead28 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 No offence but I would have bought electric cars to be honest. So much easier to use,okay you don't get the noise that people seem to like (it drives me mad) but then you don't have the headache of constantly tuning. I appreciate you can get better at it in time but whilst you are struggling to get one car going well it can become disheartening and that's when people tend to give up,sell up and don't bother with RC again. I wouldn't buy a nitro car again unless it was to convert it to brushless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokuspokus Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 so how good are the brushless cars,i see alot of them about but no nothing about them or this hobby for that matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead28 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 so how good are the brushless cars,i see alot of them about but no nothing about them or this hobby for that matter You dont have to buy brushless to begin with. You could buy something like this for arguments sake http://www.modelsport.co.uk/kyosho-sand-master-assembly-kit-red-/rc-car-products/369252 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogger Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Whilst electric is easier, nitro has the advantage that to an extent you can look out your window and if the weather looks good off you go where as electric you have to check the weather forecast (we all know how good they are!) and if it's going to be nice tomorrow you can put your batteries on charge. Also, once your battery has died you either need another one or you go home, nitro you just refill the tank. The modern brushless cars can be very fast, there are videos on you tube of some doing more than 100mph. My Rustler is brushless and it's pretty fast, it wheelies every time I touch the throttle, change a couple of gears and it should easily do 65mph. The downside is a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead28 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 With nitro you re-fill the tank and hope that it will start again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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