jeff66 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 hi all great site and info need help please.just bought what I thought was a bargain trophy 4.6 .the person said that he could not get this started. I brought it home set it back to the factory settings filled up with nitro primed it did what it says in the manual. set it up for starting took aprox 4 to 6 pulls started then it revved its nuts off and wheels was turning at the same time.did stopped within 7 secs .now the pullstart will not work.have a knackered this up or not. very new at this hobby so please go easy on me thanks for any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraithstorm67 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 What do you mean by the pull start won't work is it slipping or or is it jammed (engine won't turn over) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini-z-awd Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 what do you mean by it wont work. is it stuck as in it wont move ? does it move and it doe`s nothing just come all the way out ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff66 Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 I think the engine won't turn over as I cannot pull the pull start.don't think it is stuck as most of the cord went back in about an 1" of the cord is hanging out as well as the pulley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean-vrs Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Can turn turn the flywheel over by hand?.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff66 Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 when the truggy started if I had not had it off its wheels it would have been through the patio windows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff66 Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 yes where the orange flywheel is you can pull the start cord back to its normal position but if you try to start it it will only come out about "2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean-vrs Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 If you can do a full stroke on the piston and feel it through the flywheel, it's time to take the pull start apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff66 Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 so do you think the pullstarts knacker as when I was pulling this it was very jerky not a smooth jerkiness if you know what I mean. thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean-vrs Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 yea it's definitely your first port of call as it doesn't sound like the engine is seized or anything, and pull starts do require maintenance like anything else least while it's off you can do this even if you don't get a fix out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff66 Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 thanks for that have any idea why it revved so high and wanted to go without me touching the remote . is it an easy fix to take the pullstart of will I have to remove the engine or can that be left in situ. are there any vids out there thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombox Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Did you check your carb gap? To change your pullstart you can just take off the back end of the car the last 4 screws on the chassis if you dont want to take out your engine, i recently had to change my starter pressure pin inside my engine because of a slipping pullstart and my truggy was pretty new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff66 Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 hi put the carb back to factory settings as stated in the book on page 17 thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombox Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) still check if the gaps 1mm and what do you mean by jerkiness? pullstart hard to pull? Edited June 28, 2014 by boombox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff66 Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 hi the jerkiness is if the cord was catching on something when it was pulled.gap seems to be more than 1mm. thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombox Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 no probs, not sure whats causing the catching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff66 Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) hi all managed to remove the pullstart and cord went back into place.put it back together and the pull start would not move.does this mean I have seized the engine thanks again also taken the glow plug out to see if the piston moved up and down it moved slightly if this helps thanks again Edited June 29, 2014 by jeff66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jizwizard Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 heat the block up and move the piston with the fly wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff66 Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 the flywheel moves freely in to the left if you are looking at the car head on and to the right but only unit the pullstart cord tightens.gave it 5 mins with hairdryer but the pullstart still will not move.will not be able to reply for another hour as I have to go out thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jizwizard Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 one way bearing gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeney23 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Have you taken glow plug out and try the pull start for May of flooded it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HYPER-BOY Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 How about the clutch? Could that be stuck or engaged somehow? If it moves the piston on the flywheel when you turn it then it's not siezed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff66 Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 hi all I have taken the pull start off .is the one way bearing the large nut that fits into the pullstart .if so how do I go about taking this off. I have tried without the glow plug still no luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeney23 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 One way bearing should just slide off dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff66 Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 no never slided of was stuck on the shaft.found out the problem though.the person I bought it off had knackered the piston in as the arm had bent and broken.so will have to fork out more money for what I thought was a bargain.does any one know of any cheap spare parts shop.found the piston and lining on ebay for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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