Thank's R46 and Mr terminator, used to have a thunderace, and rd 500. I like the the fours, but tried in-laws tuono felt like being in tom and jerry cartoon where his leg's are straight out behind him, or maybe i should go the way of mick and Mr T and be a bit more sensible lol, Mr T i'm originally from ashton-in-makebelive, Nr wigan where abouts are you?