LordRodders Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Guns said: You have the old style slipper clutch, with pegs as opposed to pads. It looks like you have the old style gearbox inside the new casing Here is it stripped, I’ve laid it out in order of how they go back on ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LordRodders said: It ran okay for about 20 mins, I’ll take it apart give me 5 minutes mate 👍 You should have (I think, its been a while) a A piece of metal that slides onto the shaft A plate A spur gear with pegs A plate A piece of metal A Spring A Nut In that order Edited May 3, 2021 by Guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) That looks fine, just hold the spur and tighten the nut as far as itll go, then back it off slightly. Really compress the spring Edited May 3, 2021 by Guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turok007 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 from that pic the black bit should be first then silver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, turok007 said: from that pic the black bit should be first then silver This* didnt make that clearin my second reply. I think your issue is youre not fully tightening the nut thats all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRodders Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 55 minutes ago, turok007 said: from that pic the black bit should be first then silver Thankyou! That’s what it was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRodders Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 55 minutes ago, Guns said: This* didnt make that clearin my second reply. I think your issue is youre not fully tightening the nut thats all I tightened it all the way and done a full turn counter clock wise (Traxxas recommended) and now seems perfect again! didn’t realise they can just come loose, is it possible to change the pinon and spur to 28 / 83 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turok007 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, LordRodders said: I tightened it all the way and done a full turn counter clock wise (Traxxas recommended) and now seems perfect again! didn’t realise they can just come loose, is it possible to change the pinon and spur to 28 / 83 ? if you can find a older spur as if i remember correct the new type spur uses a pin setup on the shaft. also a different clutch system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, LordRodders said: I tightened it all the way and done a full turn counter clock wise (Traxxas recommended) and now seems perfect again! didn’t realise they can just come loose, is it possible to change the pinon and spur to 28 / 83 ? Depends on your motor/esc. Id wack a cheap brushless in it, run on 2s. Theyre epic trucks, and you got it for a great price, its worth investing a little in it. Id love to find one for reasonable money. I used to add a second lock nut to mine Edited May 3, 2021 by Guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRodders Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 41 minutes ago, turok007 said: if you can find a older spur as if i remember correct the new type spur uses a pin setup on the shaft. also a different clutch system. This is the shaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turok007 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Just now, LordRodders said: This is the shaft Yup the newer one wont fit unless they did a adapter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRodders Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, turok007 said: Yup the newer one wont fit unless they did a adapter. Ah right, any ideas where to get the gearing ? Just wanting to see if it makes much difference with the hearing I’ve been told to get ( 28/83) before I put a cheap brushless setup in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turok007 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, LordRodders said: Ah right, any ideas where to get the gearing ? Just wanting to see if it makes much difference with the hearing I’ve been told to get ( 28/83) before I put a cheap brushless setup in it Just had a quick look on ebay but didn't see any older spurs. You really need to think what you want from it as adding more power/speed will mean bearings inner gears drive shafts RPM arms? You really need to take everything apart to see what your dealing with before your spending spree starts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRodders Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, turok007 said: Just had a quick look on ebay but didn't see any older spurs. You really need to think what you want from it as adding more power/speed will mean bearings inner gears drive shafts RPM arms? You really need to take everything apart to see what your dealing with before your spending spree starts. Ah seems like it’s going to be difficult to get hold of them then, I’m only wanting to spend maybe £50/£60 on it nothing special as I got this pretty cheap. maybe just the pinion and spur and see how it goes but can’t seem to find them lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRodders Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 Could I not add a new input shaft and slipper clutch and run modern spur ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turok007 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 minute ago, LordRodders said: Could I not add a new input shaft and slipper clutch and run modern spur ? If you have all metal gears then it's one way you could go. (you could run without metal gears but might not last long at higher speeds) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRodders Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 Think I’m just going to buy a full new gearbox from the new ones as they are all metal gears I’m sure ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turok007 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, LordRodders said: Think I’m just going to buy a full new gearbox from the new ones as they are all metal gears I’m sure ? VXL one should be all metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRodders Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 So fixed it other day, took it out today and done it again, tightened the nut up again but still no drive, any ideas ? also I’ve noticed it has a HPI Firebolt 15t motor in it, are these stock or will this be causing my issues ? IMG_1768.MOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turok007 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, LordRodders said: So fixed it other day, took it out today and done it again, tightened the nut up again but still no drive, any ideas ? also I’ve noticed it has a HPI Firebolt 15t motor in it, are these stock or will this be causing my issues ? IMG_1768.MOV Cannot see video but if you put power on while holding the car still on the ground does the shaft still spin/the one with the nut on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 The firebolt is a HPI Motor so not stock. Easy for me to say, but Id invest in it, as although its old, its still so similar to the £300 plus model. It used to be a case of buying a VXL gearbox off a breakers, but might cost more now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRodders Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 24 minutes ago, turok007 said: Cannot see video but if you put power on while holding the car still on the ground does the shaft still spin/the one with the nut on it Yes motor and that one with nut on both spin but car does not want to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRodders Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, Guns said: The firebolt is a HPI Motor so not stock. Easy for me to say, but Id invest in it, as although its old, its still so similar to the £300 plus model. It used to be a case of buying a VXL gearbox off a breakers, but might cost more now Is the firebolt a decent motor ? min willing to invest in it but not fortunes lol, it’s growing on me daily I must say lol! defentily needs a new gearbox like, is the only option a VXL one or are they others I can go with? also do you know of any breakers? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpowell911 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 2 hours ago, LordRodders said: Is the firebolt a decent motor ? min willing to invest in it but not fortunes lol, it’s growing on me daily I must say lol! defentily needs a new gearbox like, is the only option a VXL one or are they others I can go with? also do you know of any breakers? thanks Its just a budget brushed motor. Bottom of the line really. I think Proline make a gearbox but its probabaly more than the VXL one. Jennys used to be the best breakers but theres always import charges now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRodders Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Guns said: 27 minutes ago, Guns said: Its just a budget brushed motor. Bottom of the line really. I think Proline make a gearbox but its probabaly more than the VXL one. Jennys used to be the best breakers but theres always import charges now ah right okay, I’ve open the gear box and all seems well, the differential can spin while at hold the output shaft, this normal? IMG_1778.MOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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