Buket_List_RC Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) Can't find a specific forum to discuss Kit Cars, so wanted to start one... So here we are: With a history of models, planes, engineering, moving parts, and such other things in the blood, I knew I had to do some RC cars before I had kids..! After some decent research I decided the 'Lunch Box' was the ultimate classic RC first build. So I built one (classic colour scheme, some mods, see previous posts). And.. Then I built another one; heavily modified. Thus, following two Lunch Box builds I am looking for my next build: But research requires a set of rules; as follows: - 1:10 / 1:12 Off-Road Kit RC (has to have the joy of building out the box - any old plod can get RTR) - Electric NiMh 7.2v Stick / 540 Brushed Motor (The best of old tech) - Fun, Fast & Some-what Rugged (strip down required on annual basis only). I have found the following models for consideration so far: Monster Truck: Lunch Box / Midnight Pumpkin (Another!) Super Clod / Bullhead (4WD) Agrios (4WD) Rock Racer: Axial Wraith (4WD) Multi-Surface Rally: Lancia Integrale (TT-02 R) (4WD) Buggy: Kyosho: Sand Master / NeXXt Associated: RC10 Classic / RC10 Classic World's Car Team C: EP Buggy Minion TR04 / Jekyll HoBao: H2 Pro Tamiya: Rising Fighter Neo Fighter Buggy Mad Bull Sand Rover Neo Scorcher (4WD) The Hornet Nova Fox Fast Attack Vehicle Sand Viper Gravel Hound Dog (4WD) The Frog Dark Impact (4WD) Hot Shot (4WD) * Super Hot Shot (4WD) Sand Scorcher Egress (4WD) [Artist Platform - Wild Willy - WR-02 etc] [stadium Truggy:] [blitzer Beetle / Stadium Blitzer] [Team Associated 10T4.2] [Rock Crawlers, Trail Trucks, and HGV's have been ruled out, but you can try and convince me if you want!] [square Brackets mean its been ruled out] *'s Means someone has give a car a thumbs up Don't want to hear arguments about going brushless and Lipo. Don't want to discuss RTR, I want to build. If I have missed a forum, please shout and laugh at me, but I did search for one, promise Firstly tell me what I have missed. Secondly tell me if I need to tweak any rules. Thirdly, and most importantly, what to dismiss... Mk. Edited April 20, 2014 by Buket_List_RC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex97 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) Do u have a budget? Some reason this has appeared in the monster section when it started in general rc Edited April 19, 2014 by alex97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buket_List_RC Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) No budget, except for consideration of the fun factor. Not going to spend a fortune on something that is dull to build, and dull to drive. Mk. Edited April 19, 2014 by Buket_List_RC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistonhead Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) Have a look at the Axial scx10 dingo and wrangler g6 too, and maybe the RC4WD Trailfinder 2 and Gelande 2. These are all scale trail trucks which will be fun to build, are hugely capable machines with hour plus run times, and have a massive amount of hop ups and scale accesories available. Word of warning though, if you do get bitten by the scaling bug, it can get expensive fast lol Edited April 19, 2014 by Pistonhead 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrs55 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Hotshot it's a great build I run mine with nihm and a tamiya tz motor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex97 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 http://www.modelsport.co.uk/tamiya-scania-r620-highline-6x4/rc-car-products/32288 not off road but would be great to build. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnestah Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) Do they still make the Falcon? Probably all round my best and fastest out the box tamiya car. The Hotshot 2 was great and a joy to build. But the 540 motor was too weak for a 4x4. Edited April 20, 2014 by barnestah 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oodboo Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I think you need a tamiya CC01 on your list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buket_List_RC Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) Have a look at the Axial scx10 dingo and wrangler g6 too, and maybe the RC4WD Trailfinder 2 and Gelande 2. These are all scale trail trucks which will be fun to build, are hugely capable machines with hour plus run times, and have a massive amount of hop ups and scale accessories available. I don't deny that these would be fun to build, and I get the appeal of the Rock Crawlers and trail trucks, I am particularly enjoying the looks of the GMade SAWBACK, but I am looking for an element of speed and grind. So I removed these from the line up... Thanks for capturing this though. (I have added speed to my brief). Mk. Edited April 20, 2014 by Buket_List_RC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex97 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 For brushed and NiMH the speed is going to be very low. Why do you want to build a car so much? Most people strip their cars and rebuild them so you will build it at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buket_List_RC Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 The Tamiya XR311 also falls short (something tells me I should build this one day), but the fun bashing, speed, off-road capability is just not there... Mk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buket_List_RC Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Do they still make the Falcon? Probably all round my best and fastest out the box tamiya car. The Hotshot 2 was great and a joy to build. But the 540 motor was too weak for a 4x4. No re-re-Falcon's, and I think the only legacy of the Falcon still purchasable is the beefed up and bulked out Blitzer Beetle... 4WD 540 noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buket_List_RC Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 For brushed and NiMH the speed is going to be very low. Why do you want to build a car so much? Most people strip their cars and rebuild them so you will build it at some point. I want something I can take care building out the box, run for a year or more (having a lot of fun) without having to strip down every 2nd day out. I don't mind the odd thing breaking, but rugged and fast is essential. After either a fatal accident, or a medal for long service, Ill either strip for parts or rebuild after a 12 months and set off again. I envisage a wall of long standing hero's. I don't mind spending money on a piece of chassis that will last forever, but I don't want to spend money on Lipo and brushless. Call me old fashioned, but I want the best of old technology (however I don't mind a bit of new age design). Mk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Noj Posted April 20, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2014 An annual strip down?? Too long to wait, IMO, should be stripping and checking more often. No RC ever complained about being well maintained and serviced 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex97 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Most rcs break and parts wear down. Striping and cleaning them is all part of the hobby. Most cars need there shocks refilled every so often and their diff's. The tamiya kits are very basic and really only a small step up from toygrade RCS. Have a look at the 1/10 racing buggy's as they are all kits but some require saddle packs so it may be a no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buket_List_RC Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 An annual strip down?? Too long to wait, IMO, should be stripping and checking more often. No RC ever complained about being well maintained and serviced OK, get where you are coming from, but lets say heavy usage between strip downs: Say Build in the winter, 4 good months of mid-spring into Summer running: Re-oil and brush up. Rebuild in the mid-Autumn Few runs in the winter (depending on conditions and frequency rebuild say 1-2 times) Wet winter months shelved (oiled and brushed off before and after shelving). Mk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex97 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I think your putting a bit much into this, these are just big boys toys. You clean it when its dirty and strip it after and long hard run. If you rebuild it all the time things are less lightly to break and the car will run by far better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Personally, the heavier the use, the more often for servicing, diffs, bearings etc. Each to their own 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buket_List_RC Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 If the car is a mess, Ill strip it down. If not Ill spend the two hours enjoying some sun, having sex, or drinking a cold beer. You can clean your models if you want... Robust and Rugged Models! Mk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buket_List_RC Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Rulled-out Stadium Truggy's - Not a fan of the looks... Mk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rctech132 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 When you say fast what do you mean by fast? 70mph? 20mph? You will get waaaayyy more speed and power from a brushless setup and lipo than with a nihm and brushed motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buket_List_RC Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Prices: I have found the following models for consideration so far: Monster Truck: Lunch Box / Midnight Pumpkin (Another!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buket_List_RC Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) Stripped out a few more... Kyosho Sand Master Edited April 20, 2014 by Buket_List_RC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrs55 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Also have a look at a Durga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buket_List_RC Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Also have a look at a Durga Cheers. Belt Drive and Lightweight, nice, where are you sourcing the model from? Mk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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