The reason I was looking at civic is we've had several in the family had a few quotes on a 1.6 vtec ep2 model to ep3 rep and a few tasty mods also that's sees me with quotes as low as 1200 quid I've actually found the opposite of what everyone says the bigger engined cars don't exactly bump the price up +the bigger the car the cheaper it goes again. I couldn't go as low as small as a lupo with 2 kids either..