M8 I built the track at syda holymoorside, we went through all the same issues and problems with land owners and the council , in the end you need a farmer with land out of the way, noise is a big issue, people will always complain,. Holymoorside is just not getting used, I am a member at NDOR now, it take 25 mins to get there and its all weather. Saturdays is public bashing day