Garry Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Fine Design has released the very first ready-to-run, water-cooled, brushless conversion for a nitro vehicle. Fine Design took the popular 1/8-scale Kyosho Inferno GT series of nitro touring cars and converted them to electric using a high power Fine Design Nemesis Blue brushless motor and 4S 3700 LiPo battery pack. What makes these vehicles extra special is the water cooling system that allows the car to run at high speed in very hot temperatures without overheating and shutting down. The cooling system has a pump that is powered by its own LiPo pack, that sends water through a cooling jacket on the motor and speed control. The water then passes through a coil of metal tubing that is further cooled by an electric fan. Fine Design is offering the converted Kyosho Inferno GT as a complete RTR. There are four bodies to choose from; Aston Martin DBR-9 shown here, BMW M3 GTR, Subaru Impreza WRC, and Ferrari F430 GT. When I say complete, I mean complete—even the batteries for the transmitter are included. The cars will sell for an introductory price of $895. Fine Design is planning on selling the cooling system as its own item for $139. Metal Cooling coils with Electric Fan The Brushless motor is water cooled and is setup to use the stock 2-speed Kyosho Clutch. Castle Creations Hydra speed control Coming soon is an e-Baja too, with: - Lehner 8HP Motor - 150Amp 4-10S Brushless Speed Control - 10S 5000 Mah 30C Lipo Battery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc__killer Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 the water cooling bit looks very easy to make bet it not be cheap looks good tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpi_matrix_stock Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 (edited) Could have used thinner coils on the radiator and made it a bit larger, looks effective though. Although a hole in the front of the shell looks like it would be better then that fan. Can you actually buy the water cooling system seperatly? Any pictures of the pump? the water cooling bit looks very easy to make bet it not be cheap looks good thoThe pumps the only thing that need to be bought in otherwise all the other bits are readily availiable. Edited October 12, 2007 by Hpi_matrix_stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolf hamster Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 (edited) the water cooling bit looks very easy to make bet it not be cheap looks good tho you could even try and cool a nitro, make up for over heating at idle and slow speed. Edited October 12, 2007 by adolf hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggles Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 cooling a nitro is different thoug it needs to get hot where as a electric motor dosent. that E- baja looks sweeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt B Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 I agree with HPI, it probably would work better with a hole in the front of the shell. I do like the idea though, but it may be a bit hard to fit it to some vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolf hamster Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 cooling a nitro is different thoug it needs to get hot where as a electric motor dosent. that E- baja looks sweeet i meant to stop it overheating, like a 1:1 car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt B Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 So do you mean air and water cooled then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolf hamster Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 (edited) So do you mean air and water cooled then? kinda but with a fan so it works at low speeds. this would be good on monsters that don't go fast enough to be air cooled as effeciently as they could be. Edited October 12, 2007 by adolf hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpi_matrix_stock Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 (edited) Hamsters idea could possibly work if you included a thermostat into the system (basically a device that only lets cooling water through when the engine reaches a certain temperature) Edited October 12, 2007 by Hpi_matrix_stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolf hamster Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Hamsters idea could possible work if you included a thermostat into the system (basically a device that only lets cooling water through when the engine reaches a certain temperature) yeah, it'd need a thermostat. it would be good for begginners who may not be that good at seeing when they're engine is overheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpi_matrix_stock Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 On the other hand they use water cooling on boats and I doubt they have a thermostat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggles Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 (edited) what i meant was with a nitro it has to reach a certain temp to run properly, and it would be hard as there isn't a set temperature for each engine it depends on tune and condition etc. so it would probably be over/under cooling you engine most of the time. Whereas a electric you just keep it cool as you can really. Edited October 12, 2007 by wiggles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolf hamster Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 On the other hand they use water cooling on boats and I doubt they have a thermostat. my mates granda has one, not working but you can see where the diaphragm goes for the pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefshark Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 why make a electric conversion for the baja the whole idea of it is you get the power and noise of a petrol no the whine of a electric motor its a clever concept but wasted on the baja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolf hamster Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 why make a electric conversion for the baja the whole idea of it is you get the power and noise of a petrol no the whine of a electric motor its a clever concept but wasted on the baja amen to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobG Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Expensive, but an important step forward for electric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggles Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 the reason why they made the brushless baja is just because they can i know i would want a brushless 1/5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 sorry guys but i think its a complete waste of time !!! baja is petrol and a bloody good one at that i think people that run bajas will laugh at the idea just my opinion tho cheers rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpi_matrix_stock Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) A chainsaw engine isnt that nice to listen to I bet they'll be laughing as an electric car over takes their petrol one Edited October 14, 2007 by Hpi_matrix_stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb2120 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 On the other hand they use water cooling on boats and I doubt they have a thermostat. Yes, but boats have an almost unlimited supply of cool, unheated water surrounding them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpi_matrix_stock Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Yes, but boats have an almost unlimited supply of cool, unheated water surrounding them Yes obviously marine engines are different, but it proves nitro engines can run cool(er). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolf hamster Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Yes obviously marine engines are different, but it proves nitro engines can run cool(er). they are. they have bellows connected to the crank and i think they take feul from a valve at the top of the cylinder [as there is water in the crankcase] but there are probably many varieties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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