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So how dose Rovan sell the RTR for £430, Lets get away from the cheap Chinese rubbish line because we know there not, Cheap yes, But not rubbish, Even the engines are pretty good.
We know there not coming in by some back door, A bricks and mortar shop is selling them, So all import duties and taxes and what not are payed, RCModelz is making something by selling them at that price, Rovan is making something, Everybody seems happy, So can someone tell me why HPI seem to think £700 for a roller is OK.
I ask that question, But some of the replies here answer it for me, Because they only need a few to think the price is fair for it to be worth there time.
Look at it this way, Your in the model shop standing at the counter with a wad of tenners, Now count with me.
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10-100
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10-200
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10-300
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10-400
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10-500
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10-600
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10-700
700 quid is a lot of money when you count it out in cash, Especially for a Baja with no flaming engine or radio.
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12 hours ago, BashingBrian said:
An Arrma 1/5 EXB roller is more than £700, so I don't think the Baja is that badly priced to be honest.. but hey, what do I know 😉😂
And there is how bad it's got, Something being seen as not bad value in respect to something else that is also horrendous value.
I think the only way for some to realise just how stupid the pricing has got is the next time you go to get one for this sort of money, Walk into a model shop, Don't use your credit card or your PayPal account, Do as I and many used to do in the old days, And count out £700 in cold hard cash onto the counter.
Only when people once again see what 700 quid in £10 notes looks like, And just how long it takes to count out 700 quid onto the counter will we start to get our perspective back.
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Not been here or touched my cars in absolute ages, Maybe years, You know how it is, So went to Modelsport site just to have a look and see whats changed while I've been away.
Saw that HPI had dragged out another car from the back catalogue, Saw the price and thought not bad for a Baja and it's a kit you can build yourself like the old days, Then looked down the list and realised it doesn't come with an engine or anything, It's a rolling chassis, It's 700 quid for a Baja rolling chassis.
Has the world gone mad, Even if the pound haddent tanked, Even if there was no cost of living crises, Even if I had lost all sense of perspective, Why would anyone think of handing over 700 quid for a Baja roller, I know it was an excuse used by some around here back in the day when King Motor and Roven turned up, But I'm pretty sure HPI have got there R&D back by now.
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Nice, Thanks for taking the time.
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On 31/01/2022 at 21:02, Yorkshireman said:
Agree on that one mate.
You can get the DR8 for £325 at the moment.
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Always are, Still a lot cheaper than pretty much anywhere else at the moment.
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It was 25% last time, Only 20% this time but Align-Trex are part of the eBay 20% off sale , And some of the deals are pretty good.
FTX DR8 for £325, Hobao Hyper VT for £183, Hyper 21 Pullstart engine £75, Hyper 7 TQ2 with Mac 28 £297, And plenty of others.
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Absima,More like obscene.
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4 hours ago, jariworsley said:
quality piece of kit that hong nor and looks clean. I was tempted by that too - 12-nitroman on that auction site yes? I seem to remember "hong nor big bores" being just the thing for those converting hyper 7s years ago?
Yes it was,I love Hong Nor Stuff,Have two CRT'S,This one dose need a front gearbox case which may take some tracking down.
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Another buggy for the strip and clean table, Another bargain at £72 delivered.
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And the Ukulele.
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1 hour ago, bertberr said:
Blimey dude, you been on the crystal meth?
Don't get it.
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I'm also a bit confused with all the speed talk going on about this car, Not wishing to talk for everybody here, But I thought most of us were passed the 'Hey mister, How fast dose it go'.
It's a truck for jumping, It's a truck for having fun with, But one of the main gripe's seems to be that it's not very fast in a straight line, Sorry but if the main complaint is that I can't hit that skate ramp at 55mph then you deserve every broken arm and bent chassis you get.
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1 hour ago, supersavage said:
This is exactly the impression that I got when I pulled it out of the box but I thought I'd give it a chance, should've probably just straight back. I would honestly advise people to stay away from the savage or anything HPI until they drop their prices or until they improve the quality of their products to reflect their prices.
Is it really that obvious from just an out the box inspection.
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4 hours ago, supersavage said:
Honestly I would've rather taken my chances on a used savage at this point 😂😭
I get the impression that whoever took on HPI are just trying to claw back as much money as they can with as little investment as possible.
How you muck up the Savage re-release I will never know,That takes some doing, Knocking a couple hundred quid of the price would help,£650 is just silly,Even in these times of silly pricing that is extra silly.
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Sounds like the RB One is better quality than the Savage.
Finished the strip down and clean last night, Had to order a motor mount to finish it off, But what a shame RB went under, Engines arguably the best in the world and this kit feels quality, Going by the chassis bottom it had been used a fair bit but everything is still tight on it, And it's a looker as well, Bargain £55.
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6 minutes ago, supersavage said:
Sent the Savage back to Wheelspin, depending on what they find they may end up sending it back to HPI.
Please, Pray tell.
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Need an engine mount for an RB ONE, So dose anyone know the distance between the holes on the Losi 8ight. I need 35cm centre to centre and an inline mount like below.
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14 hours ago, Nerocircus said:
Well this is it, isn’t it? Find these batteries in lots of other things in the house which hasn’t previously posed any real worry. Just with having read and watched various videos of then going up, and think about the consequences of that in the house.
may revert to storing in the fire place in ammo tin, and then charging outside.
And how many of them videos didn't include a plank with a hammer and nail, Store mine in the shed in there boxes, Gets well cold, Never had one go up in flames or seen one go up in flames, Been using and abusing for years and I feel like I'm missing out.
If it makes you feel better charging them like that then go for it, But you get more house fires from washing machines and fridges and we don't have them out side wrapped in a fire blanket.
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EXB Extreme version coming mid February.
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Not seen This before, Assume it's new and not on there website, Might be on Facebook, But who dose that these days.
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On 10/01/2022 at 21:12, tanveer said:Nothing rc related today but popped down to my local bike shop to pick my new e bike up...😍😍 Cannot wait to get it on the trails this Weekend.
That is nice, I bought a new one at the beginning of October but couldn't convince myself or the wife that 2 grand + was justifiable for the amount I would use it and how I would use it so ended up buying this for 600. Thing is that since the Pandemic started a year and half ago and needing to drop a few pound I have been riding 13 miles 5-6 days a week every week, So would have got use out of it, But the wife don't know that I still haven't turned a wheel on the new bike as I keep rolling out the old one for some reason so it was right I didn't spend £2000 on a bike.
And I'm off right this minute for my ride.
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Couple of them good old reliable servo's, Ordered at about 11 Sunday night from Banggood UK warehouse and they turned up this morning, That's like next day delivery, And only £14 delivered for the two.
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To be fair on NitroTek, A shop here that many advise to stay clear of because they mainly do the cheap HSP and Smartek stuff, They were selling the Atom version over here before FTX.
HPI Racing Baja 5B Buggy Kits are back!
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Dense am I, Didn't take long for someone to roll out the old R&D line, So for one how many times has HPI died and been resuscitated by some hedge fund wanting to try it on again by rolling out something from the back catalogue, And who actually owns it at the moment.
I always thought it was the early adopters that payed for all the start-up costs like R&D, Marketing and tooling, And as time go's on you get that back and slowing through efficiency and recouping the money spent on R&D and tooling you start to pass on the savings, Well it's been what, Coming up to 20 years since release and they've not got there R&D back, OK.
You say it's disgusting that RCModelz can sell them freely, Thing is you don't know what licencing is in place, None of us here ever have, Some have tried to make out they do know but could never back it up, Some here have always assumed they were a straight up illegal copy from the off with absolutely nothing to back up that assumption , Only thing I remember is some vague HPI post moons ago which also went nowhere. HPI has changed hands more times than Liz Truss has changed her mind and you can say for fact that some off them money men didn't think of, Or actually did sell off some of that intellectual property.
You say it's an illegal copy, So how is it that a fake Nike or Levi's stall on the market or being sold online can be shut down quicker than you can blink, Yet the only retail bricks and mortar shop in the entire country has been happily importing and selling as you say freely for over 10 years has never to the best of my dense knowledge been issued a cease and desist notice, It's not like HPI would need a team of PI's to hunt down the source of these illegal kits coming into the country.
You also say they just bought a genuine Baja and just copied it, The same is also said about the Losi 5T, If that's the case, How is it the Chinese can copy an iPhone within a month of release, Yet it took King Motor 2 years to copy the 5T, It's also funny that King Motor and Rovan both released there 5T versions at the same time, It's also funny that Losi and Horrizon Hobby, Two of the biggest and richest names in the hobby industry have not only not gone after RCModelz for selling knock off 5T's, Horrizon Hobby's is doing business with them and suppling them with what seems every brand they distribute.
So there is more chance than not that these are actually fully paid up licenced kits, And I would happily call Traxxas a cancer in the hobby before any other.
I don't care what you or anyone spends there money on.
But when someone gives there opinion on a toy car, Don't start your reply by calling them dense, Especially when you have nothing what so ever to back up any one of your assumptions.
I'm done, As I said I've not touched my cars for 2 years and there just sitting in the roof void above my head, So couldn't care less and just wanted to see if anything had changed, And nothing has, Hpi is still rolling out the same old thing, Now £489 for the XL Flux don't seem bad.