Tamiyacowboy Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 so helicopters hard to fly and costly machines. what do you do when they are dead and will not fly? throw them out is the usual route or trawl interweb for parts. so my poor freebird 4ch helicopter from QiFIE died had very bad TBE and dangerous to fly. a gonner. its has been a long six years away from rc and boy oh boy has it changed. but i have not. first of i stripped down the whole helicopter to its bare basics a naked power system. the power system is a micro pcb with an added gyro. it runs 2x 6mm main pager motors and 2x 4mm pager motors. it is an Infrared controler and reciever. the donor plane is a micro full body foam biplane with 7" wingspan. it will have yaw via motor torque spin. the two small 4mm motors are to be placed into the very rear of the fusalage and will run moon gears glued to the control surfaces. this will give the plane bank left/right, yaw left/right, decend/accend. it will be powered by a 100mah 3.7 lipo cell and aeroace props maybe orange gws props. the plane above designed by mike glass and called the micro ultimate. so what do you think. can cheap micro heli's become a power system for micro planes. what about a micro t rx combo running a bashing indoor plane around the house/garden it should and could be possible. as some know my modding is done over time and usualy in a step by step guide. so keep looking for updates and pictures of the build. and maybe just maybe tami will be seen on video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesChatz Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Good luck TC, will be an interesting project. Keep it updated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydro Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 nice looking byplane mate sounds like an intresting project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiyacowboy Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 so there we have it, the card model of the micro ultimate biplane. and a couple more snaps. the jet is an F-10 and will be powered with the same heli gear from the bipe. cutting starts this weekend and hopefuly they maiden around a week maybe two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydro Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 this site might be of intrest to you mate not sure if you have seen it before but some intresting stuff on there http://bsdmicrorc.com/index.php?show_aux_page=5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiyacowboy Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 Stalpes sells paper covered foamboard 2x A1 sheet for just under a tenner. you need to peal off both paper sides to leave a 4mm profile. the sheets come in 5mm thinkness also different sizes and black to. so project is GO GO GO. need to source some UHU POR foamsafe glue and dig out the old faithful fix anything if you have a plug socket glue gun. most mat ask CAN you USE a PICCOZ helicopter in a plane. i will say now NO NO NO forget it is not possible. most other cheap childs toy rc planes can be and maybe some certain helicopters hence this thread. another heli donor could be the blade mcx but i say maybe !! so what first 4mm extruded poly aka foam is fairly heavy and bulky so i may need to rethink a bipe model for the time being. but it is possible to build the F-10. keep watching this may be faster than my usual mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydro Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 im watching with intrest maate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiyacowboy Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 a few changes maily to the Jet itself. as you can see it is not a F-10. there are alot of problems with the F-10 fuselage and build it requires a 14" plan atleast and mine is only a 7.5 inch plan. the above jet is called the AlleyCat. made from staples 5mm foamcore board it will carry the heli gear without no problem. all up flying weight has been numbered to around 16 grams in weight. model is 10" - 11.5" i am unsure what plan i downloaded lol. i also tested some evo-stick "serious glue repair & fix". this stuff worked perfect on the staples foamcore board and did not melt it at all. infact the bond was so good i had to look atleast a couple times to make sure. controling this beast is going to take some smooth fingers. the gyro is a pain and needs more tweeks. it may even have to be removed but that should not become a problem. unsure the plane will keep airborne so i have a larger mah cell on the sideline. the plane above spent 40 mins in the hands of a 9yr old lad. i found best COG without electronics and let him play with it as a throw glider free flight plane. i been ordered to build him the alleycat for when he goes to the local parks so it must be a fairly good glider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiyacowboy Posted March 7, 2010 Author Share Posted March 7, 2010 (edited) have given up this build and most other foamie builds. every plan i have downloaded is not 1 single sheet but around 12 pages and need to be taped together to make a single plan. this is way to much for me. i am unable to print these out and then line up. the images dont line up at all and i end up with a plan with most of image covered by page overlapping. until people start making decent and propper plans i give up totaly i mean why on earth go to so much trouble breaking a plan down and making it into multi print pages that will never line up even when layout on floor. got a few harsh words for plan designers, " stop cutting corners and making these useless multi page printout designs they suck !!" how bad is it you may ask, well lets just say left half of wing measures 6 inch and the right side 4.2 inch. and reason why is these daft rubbish tape together plans. thats a A2 £10 sheet of foam wasted and not even able to re use Edited March 7, 2010 by Tamiyacowboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaragon Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 have given up this build and most other foamie builds. every plan i have downloaded is not 1 single sheet but around 12 pages and need to be taped together to make a single plan. this is way to much for me. i am unable to print these out and then line up. the images dont line up at all and i end up with a plan with most of image covered by page overlapping. until people start making decent and propper plans i give up totaly i mean why on earth go to so much trouble breaking a plan down and making it into multi print pages that will never line up even when layout on floor. got a few harsh words for plan designers, " stop cutting corners and making these useless multi page printout designs they suck !!" how bad is it you may ask, well lets just say left half of wing measures 6 inch and the right side 4.2 inch. and reason why is these daft rubbish tape together plans. thats a A2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiyacowboy Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 aye these new PDF tiled are kinda useless. i am used to the old sigle sheet rolled plans from the 1970's and 1980's. files are PDF so means i have to set up printer for boarder less design. i got the Edge 540 plan to scale as good as i could and taped down to an 11.5 inch wing equal from tip to tip. nose to tail looks kinda out of scale. my next is a MorBack F3P this is a nice plane and will require some differnt thickness foam will need 2mm and maybe even 1mm thick foams. the wings and fuslarge realy catch my eye on this model. idea is for a 12" wingspan from a 40 inch plan. 2mm wings and fuselage/tail but the upper winglet and brakes will be made in 1mm foam. i want this plane to have a very high alpha/harrier flight. this is to be a practice fuselage for learning basic prop hanging and test bed for the heli guts also. the edge 540 for those cool windless summer nights and the morback for indoor antics and practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiyacowboy Posted March 13, 2010 Author Share Posted March 13, 2010 (edited) the cubical curtains are drawn, the surgeon stands with his blade in hand, sweat drips from his forehead, as he swabs it away with foam dust. Knife, selotape , sticky plasters, cuppa tea, let us begin ladys and gentlemen take 1x 33 inch morback F3P aerobatics plane plans. set printer prefs to -55% size. print stick and cut out the parts. take craft knife !!, Trust me stanley blades are not good for your finger tips. blood was cleaned from the foam as good as possible lol. so what does it look like tami you are all asking. these pictures are mid build so un glued test fitting to give rough idea. this thread is a download nightmare. the morback is 17 inch long and carrys a 16.5 inch wing span. made from 4 mm foamboard found in staple's UK the frame is an F3P class design scaled down 55% the airframe alone weighs in at 20 grams. designed to run on 5g outrunners or maybe parkzone/kyosho micro flyers like the cub/p-51/ suko power systems. fully 3d able with correct systems. front wing profile showing nac's and upper wing race and tracks. these funnel airflow towards the oversized flaps on wings and rear stabs. carbon tubes or flat profile carbon strips are used to add strength to wings. this is added at glue down stage. hope this gives you all some get up and go to build your own airframes. Edited March 13, 2010 by Tamiyacowboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan112fab Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 BUNA ZIUA,VREAU SA CONSTRUIESC SI EU ACEST MODEL DE MORBACK F3P SI NU PREA GASESC MATERIALE SA FILME CU ACEST MODEL...AI PE AICI PE UNDEVA IMAGINI SAU FILME CU ETAPELE DE CONSTRUIRE A ACESTUI MODEL.MULTUMESC FRUMOS PENTRU COLABORARE...SA AVETI O ZI BUNA Morback (1).pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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