yoclick Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 (edited) I dont like buying nitro trucks especially from ebay if second hand. You dont know if its been well looked after; broken in well or the performance of it at the moment. I would much prefer to get it without being used (i could alwayz buy a new engine i hear you cry!) Adamking he says £250. Thats roughly the price of the E-Maxx from America. Not bad at all. But 16 tanks by one owner and owned by another owner before! Heeey wait a minute. The guy says "4 speed gearbox". 3Speed forword and Reverse? Heres the item before this guy had it: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...item=5977105617 Edited July 21, 2005 by yoclick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salman Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 the wire in the Pic i for a LG 8120 (I think) You could gte it for £250. there nothing wrong with second hand. I swapped my Savage 4.6 or my LST and it was used..... It came perfect.. It wouldnt make MUCH difference if it isnt proply broken in, Only in the Life of th engine i think. Anyway, Everyone will break in a car propely..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Right, I haven't read all the posts but I've seen alot of talking on my behalf and not all of it's true. Revo, I think the engine is amazing, best .15 available, very cheap too. Thing is people have problems with it because it is quit difficult to tune, but as long as you make tiny changes it will be fine. Other people have problems because of air leaks, usually through the front bearing. I will be upgrading engine, just because i want stupid power, but a great engine. About the stalling, that was because my exaust coupler had split clean in two and there wasn't enough pressure for the fuel to get to the engine. Yes my engine overheats, I can let it overheat, or lower the shifting point but i like it where it is, really gets the engine screaming! The arms looks weak, but I have bashed it pretty hard and to date I have ony broke an upper arm. The LST is good but difficult for a begginner, and recently alot of golden horizons engines have been killing themselfs because of weak conrods, not just a few, LOADS, they even admitted there where about 1000 that where bad, and there is a high probability you will get one. My Revo from america cost me 210 pounds. BEWARE, you WILL get charged customs fee's, just get the seller to mark it down as a $100 item. You should be able to get a good revo from ebay for 250, and I think if you look hard you should be able to find a good one. Show us on here first though, and if there are things which are unstated just ask. Questions like, how old is it, how much fuel through engine, which fuel through engine, how many times have you repaired it (if truck is old, the more the better), if you require any more info or any more questions just ask. Thakns I think you should get the revo, no question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 4 Speed refers to the gearbox (which isn't very reliable!). You can put it in low gear for stuff like hill climbing, which has two speeds, lots of tourqe, not alot of speed. Thier is a high gear, good top speed, 2 gears. 2 gears in high, 2 in low comes to 4, but only 2 are useable at once. I'd say for a begginger stay away from it, it's hard work! Does pay off though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoclick Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 Thanks waz, Lots of usefull information in there! Yeah the revos engine is like marmite, you either love it or hate it! I've had no experience with traxxas though (in fact i havent even seen one in real life) so i couldnt comment. Currently there is one Revo on ebay for 260 in the UK. I think if i ask he'll do it £250 shipped. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...5988290944&rd=1 It looks alrite but i would prefer it he took paypal! I also found that you can buy brand new revo's for like £330 or less in the UK. Not bad...! I'll keep looking and keep everyone updated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 That looks okay, not great but okay. Looks like he runs it alot, so the engne probably will only have a gallon or two left in it. Offer 260 shipped? However bumpers looks clean! Thats a good sign! You may want to look around for a newer one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salman Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 The LST isnt hard to work on... Am 13 and i can work on it, It looks easier than the Revo anyway.. I hihly doubt you will gte a dodgey LST, If you do and its ****'s up send it back untouched and youl gte it rebuilt for you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I didn't say the LST is hard to work ON, I said it's hard to work with. Your gearbox needs a rebuild, I guarentee you will find that hard, because most things on the LST are put in, using complicated methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 (edited) This looks like a better option, though it might be a little over your budget. He accepts paypal though! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...5988284282&rd=1 Edited July 21, 2005 by waz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salman Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I didn't say the LST is hard to work ON, I said it's hard to work with. Your gearbox needs a rebuild, I guarentee you will find that hard, because most things on the LST are put in, using complicated methods. ← It doesnt It was a stripped spur piece taht got suck in the clutch bell tooth .. Still not hard to work with..... Btw, what about your optidrive and pushrod things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 (edited) Optidrive is a b itch, with stock radio it'll be fine, but wasn't with mine, and I don't like reverse so I'd say get a FOC. Oh and whats wrong with the pushrod? Edited July 21, 2005 by waz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salman Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Optidrive is a b itch, with stock radio it'll be fine, but wasn't with mine, and I don't like reverse so I'd say get a FOC. Oh and whats wrong with the pushrod? ← Got a crack hasnt it? or was that some pther plastic bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 (edited) That was a rocker, and I've been bashing pretty hard so it's expected. Got loads of spares for 2 quid anyway. Let's not argue about which car is better, he's had the main things pointed out to him, he can make his own mind up. Edited July 21, 2005 by waz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoclick Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 (edited) The guy said he would take £250 for the LST Hi there, I will take £250 for the truck but will need the extra £15 for the postage as using paypal incurs a fee so I would be loosing twice. Or if you paid by personal cheque I will pay the postage. Left me know I your interested. As to the trucks engine it runs very well. I have put about 6-8 tanks through and the chap I had it from had put about 12 tanks through and tuned it very well, it is tuned slightly on the rich side so it should have plenty of life left in it. Regards Luke B Edited July 21, 2005 by yoclick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Sounds good to me! Go for it! Be prepared to spend a fair bit on it though, oh and to dampen the sound make sure you run with an exaust deflector. Your arms will break at some point, I'd go with RPM's, and some stiffer foams in the tyres. PM me for LST sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoclick Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 Well i've contacted few others about some others so i'm just going to wait till tomorrow for any more responses! I think i will need to change the engine soon though even though they say its not been run much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 If it's only had 20 tanks through why would it need to be replaced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoclick Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 (edited) Because i dont believe them! I never seem to believe it when people say "Oh just broken in". You wouldnt spend that much on a truck, run a few tanks after finally breaking it in and then sell it! Also this person says they only run a few tanks aswell.... Maybe just me but if i spend £310 on somthing, il use it for longer than an hour before deciding to sell it again! Does look very nice and clean compared to its older pictures though. Also it was run on Blue Thunder and now O'Donnell is being used. Heard its not good to change but at least the nitro content is the same. It also comes with quite a lot of bits! Few Questions on LST: 1) Can it wheelie (i just love a huge 1/8 on two wheels!) 2) Is it durable? 3) Is it a good basher? (im not really going to race) Am on the edge of buying this! Edited July 21, 2005 by yoclick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Well nothing wrong with changing fuels as long as you don't jump from 10% to 33% and go for outright performance straight away, you'd have to do like a mini, 2 tank break in. Oh and O'donell's fuel is way better than blue thunder. Good point about the engine and how long it's been run, but typically these engines last about 12 gallons, maybe it's done one so far? Stock when that car arrives it should wheelie, yes aslong as it's tuned properly and is running 20%. It is durable except for a few weak points. The arms are very weak, especially for a truck that weights as much as the LST. Get some RPM arms, but beware, they are adjustable camber arms and if you crash with them you WILL bend the turnbuckles, savage turnbuckles are okay, about 2 quid each (you will need 4), or get the real replacement, lunsford titanium turnbuckles, cheap at just $5 per turnbuckle, and they have a lifetime guarentee agaist bending or breakages. You will want to add alloy diffcasses or you wil soon have a right nasty mess on your hands, about a tenner each, you want two. If you run in places with loose stones you will want a secondary gear cover off ebay, 5 quid. You may want to keep some spare tie rods, and especially soem of the plastic ends. It is a good basher but you have to put some money into it first. It is really strong, but beware, not alot can stop a truck, going 50mph that weight as much as the LST, and when you take a hard landing you may just break and bend a few things. For what it is, you won't find anything better value. Buy it, if you need more money for hop-ups, sell the radio and buy a cheap one, but I reccomend keeping the radio as it's a great peice of equipment and I'll never go back to those crappy stock ones that there is ;nothing wrong with'. Thanks I know I missed a few things but if you can tell what I missed just ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoclick Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 (edited) Cheers for the reply! Very imformative as normal! I've already got half a gallon of O'Donnel 20% for my touring car so add this 3/4 and i have ages of driving! Well im going to see tomorrow; sleep on it tonight and decide tomorrow. I didnt realise these engines should last 12 gallons odd! I thought maximum of 5-6 but never that much! Is that before a new piston and sleeve are needed or when the engine is completly wrecked? Hopefully after sleeping on it i would have diecided! However i keep seeing videos and loving it! What a huge engine aswel... .28 That is huge! Ohhh im starting to love this truck! First thing in the morning i will call my LHS about spares are ease of getting them. If its good then i will buy! Thanks for your help everyone from starting with E-Maxx and now ending up with a LST Edited July 21, 2005 by yoclick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Looks like I'm off to bed too Fuel don't last too long with the LST, big engine, oh and does time fly when your having fun! The engine should last about 10-14 gals before it needs a rebuild but by then you'll definatly want/should get a new engine. It will last that long because it is not an insane .21 that has been proted and polished like crazy, basically it's not designed to be a race engine. The mach .26. yes .26 not .28 , will be fast too as it's a 5 port motor (more ports means more tourqe at higher RPM's). A great truck, but it will be expensive in the long run! You have PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamking Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 (edited) Still can stick a brushless system in it when the engines gone. Edited July 22, 2005 by adamking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salman Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Still can stick a brushless system in it when the engines gone. ← LOL £250 is a good price, Go for it.. Mines had about 35 tanks and it goes. The truck is So heavy you have to find nice cut grass to get it to wheelie, Or you could get Lighter wheels (This MAY make it easier to wheelie as the Stock ones Weigh a Tone). I agree the Arms are weak, expecially if you keep crashing, Upgrade to RPM arms, and keep some stck upper arms as spare. There is notthing wrong with the engine, I wouldnt upgrade it just yet, get alod of gallons through it first. The Stock Tierod things look fine. If they break get the GPM Titanium Savage ones, they fit on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoclick Posted July 22, 2005 Author Share Posted July 22, 2005 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...bayphotohosting That only sold for £265...(even though it has a crap radio but the engine sounds fairly new and good). Maybe i should wait till the end and might get it cheaper? Or do you lot think I wouldnt get this good of a deal later? Currently im waiting for better quality pics from seller because it looks like ebay re-sized them! Oh and rang 2 of my LHS. Both carry parts and highly recommended the truck so its all thumbs up! (They are also selling the trucks for £500 and £530!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Get it now, you'll wish you had later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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