dgreat001 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 (edited) Im getting abit bored with my savvy and i want something new ive heard only good things about the lst,you think its worth selling my savage for the lst?whats the main differnces between the two?and my savage is hopped up. Edited June 13, 2005 by dgreat001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Depends really. Stock LST and savage 4.6 is what I'll compare for you. Savage is cheaper to get parts for, easier to get parts for, more hopups. Savage is stonger. Savage has a much better engine, recently in the last batch ALMOST all LST conrods have just blown, mine did, so did loads on LST central, if you have a look recently like 20-30 casses have popped up. LST is faster, has Low gear for climbing, easier to work on, not alot weaker than the sav once you get the arms sorted, it has MUCH better suspension, for jumping you notice quite alot, when your turning you can really see it working beautifully, lst is faster around the track......you got any specific questions? Sorry about the layout, I would have put it clearly put just got bk from the gym and can't be bothered typing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgreat001 Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 No its fine,im not realy going to use it on a track just thr field and on some ramps,so do you think ill be better off keeping my savage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonik Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 losi all the way , i have both and never use the savage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Personally I'd say savage, there is no substitue for durability when it comes to jumping, however, if money is no object and you can hop-up the LST a fair bit then go with that. Much better car, shame that it's not as strong as the savvy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 LST-it is much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonik Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Personally I'd say savage, there is no substitue for durability when it comes to jumping, however, if money is no object and you can hop-up the LST a fair bit then go with that. Much better car, shame that it's not as strong as the savvy. ← why is the savage stronger than the lst ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Savvy doesn't really have any weakness's I'm sure you'll agree, whereas the LST has weak arms, rod ends, turnbuckles but noting much else other than that. The LST is strong, the Savage is stronger. From all the LST's I've seen (2 in person loads online), and the savvys I've seen, (15 or so and loads online) I beleive the Savage is the strongest R/C out there, not that the LST is weak but nothing compares to a savage in durability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgreat001 Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 (edited) how much would it cost to uprgrade those things? Edited June 13, 2005 by dgreat001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Well Merlin has put like 200 quid into his, only now is it rock solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonik Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 (edited) its all down to good advertising on hpi's behalf, and its been out longer , the savage just dosent do it for me compared to lst , i think there isnt an rc car/truck out that has'nt got 1 weakness or another , especially the way we want to do jumps and things and push them hard. Savvy doesn't really have any weakness's I'm sure you'll agree, i have to disagree , i have seen a mates savage bent, to where the front was nearly at a 90 degree angle from the back, i remember the diff problems with the savage , i had to do mine myself , and the brake's are not very good, the engine is not the best in the world, it needs a throttle mod from stock , plus a steering mod, as the steering was complete rubbish, the stock servo's are not very good, the savage is very hard to work on aswell compared with lst, i could be here for age's typing why i like the losi over the savage , i think because most people have savage's out there you will always get more people saying its better because they own one , but how nany of them have both lst and savage ??? not saying the savage is total rubbish , its a great truck , thats why i have one , but my lst is out running a lot more than my savage. at the moment losi owners are out number'd by savage owner's wait till it even's out, we will really see what the general public think, any way enough ranting on my part Sonik Edited June 13, 2005 by sonik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgreat001 Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 so if you want a good stable lst itll cost you £650.its quite alot of money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Well sonic, you have some fair points there, most of them I agree with and yes I do own both a savage and a LST. You have to remember things like servos don't count neither does the steering needing to be upgraded or the brakes or diffs as I was comparing the Savage 4.6 with the LST and on the 4.6 all these things have been rectified. I'm amazed someone bent a Savage that badly! Don't suppose you have any pics lol, sounds like a hard impact! Well anyway you made your point, i made mine, lets let the origional thread starter decide instead of arguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonik Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 (edited) not arguing at all mate lol , just getting a point across , i hope i didnt give that impression , just hard to get point across with typing word's , i'm a nice chap , i think i need my facial expression's to be seen when talking to understand me properly if you know what i mean lol Edited June 13, 2005 by sonik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Yea I tottaly understand, I used to be like you lol but because you can't tell online I ended up offending quite a few people so I changed my tone lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzi220 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 i think because most people have savage's out there you will always get more people saying its better because they own one , but how nany of them have both lst and savage ??? ← waz has both he says the sav is better, judging by merlins posts he preferes the savage, but I suppose it personal choice, I'd buy a new savvy over the lst but thats me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgreat001 Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 well I would like an lst but scene as though I am quite rough with my savage and brake things quite often the savage is very durable, and the parts are very easy to obtain, I think for the time being ill stick with my savage and get a lst later on when I have the money to upgrade it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzi220 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 well I would like an lst but scene as though I am quite rough with my savage and brake things quite often the savage is very durable, and the parts are very easy to obtain, I think for the time being ill stick with my savage and get a lst later on when I have the money to upgrade it. ← very wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonik Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 waz has both he says the sav is better, he already said that i have both and i think losi is better, the savage is a totally different design from the norm , the tmax was the first to introduce the monster nitro truck , and everyone else followed through with there design's but all kept the original concept and chassis design (laydown style) , i dont like the savage design personally , but I suppose it personal choice, I'd buy a new savvy over the lst but thats me. ← have you driven a lst ? cos i'm supprised you would say that if you have tbo.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonik Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 well I would like an lst but scene as though I am quite rough with my savage and brake things quite often the savage is very durable, and the parts are very easy to obtain, I think for the time being ill stick with my savage and get a lst later on when I have the money to upgrade it. ← i havent had any problems with diff's or arm's breaking , , my lst is totally stock , i might think about changing the diff housing which is cheap enough , but thats it , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzi220 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 have you driven a lst ? cos i'm supprised you would say that if you have tbo.. ← yeh on friday at the back of my lhs, i was more impressed with the 4.6 tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonik Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Well Merlin has put like 200 quid into his, only now is it rock solid. ← £200 on what , all you need is ally diff housing, about £20 if that and it solid as a rock, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Seriously the LST arms are a joke, if you've never broken them you've never had a hard impact, the arms are a well know issue. Both cars need money put into them to be great cars, the savage is the cheaper option, the lst has better performance but is the more expensive option, yet it is better value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 The arms are p*ss weak, i got new RPM Arms, New Era roll cage, Lunsford tie rods, the list goes on. So far for me, the arms have been the best buy, along with the rollcage, both have saved me a good few quid.... Out of the box, i reckon the savage is an awesome truck, quick and stong as nails, definately a basher, the LST i personally think if u were gonna race MT's is the one to go for, speed and handling, but the durability is pish out of the box. Personal preference really, but whats the point in having an MT and not give it any abuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonik Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Seriously the LST arms are a joke, if you've never broken them you've never had a hard impact, the arms are a well know issue. i had a runaway where it had several hard impacts the only thing that broke was the right side cvd end where the wheel nut goes, wheel came off , and chassis engine brace which was pretty unexpected , but thats bloody good considering the smacks it took through the carpark , cost £4 to fix cvd end and its ok to run untill chassis brace gets replaced, ( thanks to kev for telling me lol) Both cars need money put into them to be great cars, the savage is the cheaper option, the lst has better performance but is the more expensive option, yet it is better value. ← Tottaly agree with ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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