AndyandDoug Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Hi all, I am from the carp fishing background and have a Angling Technics Procat Mk2 bait boat which is great. Bought it with a friend 2nd hand last year and used it successfully for all of last summer (upto around 8/9 fishing trips). The boat performed on every use last year and was put away under my mates bed with its batteries disconnected (but the handset/transmitter batteries still connected). Went to use it last week and having problems with it. When the boat is turned on, the motors run all the time with the control sticks in the central position, when the control sticks are moved to certain positions the motors will stop or change the noise they are making (guessing caused by a slight change of direction). When the channel of the right hand control stick is changed to N rather than R, the boat responds as if the handset/transmitter isn't turned on. Any suggestions are appreciated, although we have tried recharged/different batteries and I have crystals on order, as we are really keen to get this fixed (and try not to send it back to the manufacturer). Many thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl160180 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Check the "trims" on the handset, might have been knocked when it was put away. This would explain the motor running but then stopping when you move the stick slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-BEZ- Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Yep I'd go with trims too, can you upload a picture of your transmitter as it is now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyandDoug Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Thanks for the quick replies. I have played with the trims and hasnt made any difference to the situation apart from vary when the moteor noise changes/stops. Ive had a friend who used to race RC cars look at the trims etc and he is pretty sure it isnt the trims. Crystals shouldnt be long in the post so will try those next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-BEZ- Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 have you tried re calibrating the speed controller to the transmitter or is it a "auto setup" in these situations my best advice is to find the manual or download one and follow the initial setup steps and see how it is after that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barron Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Give Angling techics a call on 01666575144 , i had a problem with my mk1 procat and they put me right over the phone , there very helpful and willing to help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiyacowboy Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 hello andy Ex fisherman here to, mainly bream tench and the old carp. the old procat, runs a 6v lead acid battery if i am right and on the old 27mhz waveband. here is what i would do, it will last a good few years, carry more bait ( ie more load capacity ) weigh in alot less to ( more lightweight ) first off, the crystal is a old technology and always caused problems, anything like a cb radio etc etc could swap the radio signal. the old style of speed control had no failsafes. these days when battery starts to die power is not cut off but governed to get you back ashore. GPS and even fish finders are fitted these days. i think what has happened is over time the handset has been corroded, hence your getting weirding of the handset and motor control. the same can happen to a speed control. New Motor speed controller, something like a Brushed 30-40A speed controller. Next a new handset and reciever ( 2.4ghz ) maybe 3-6 channel system, the more channels the more things boat can do. ie flick on data recording of fishfinder. enable gps plotter - waypointer. flip single/dual/quad bait bays. Battery something like a 4s 5000mah (1/3rd the weight of a lead acid) put two of these in your going to have 10,000mah ( 10ah) and weigh about half that of the lead acid. recharge time an hour not the usual 12+hrs for your lead acid. just the above will make the procat into a megacat ( my idea of how they should have built it ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyandDoug Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Thanks for the suggestions! I haven't tried recall rating it yet, firstly as I didn't think that was possible but secondly as the fault is more of an intermittent fault than permanent. I haven't called AT as I expected them just to say 'send it back to us' and the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyandDoug Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Ive had the transmitter open today and half of it doesnt look to be in good shape. Alot of the components on half of the PCB were furry and looked water contaminated. I cleaned them up as best I could with a commutator brush as well as doing all other connections including battery contacts. BUT....still no improvement. I did manage to get the boat responding to the transmitter correctly this afternoon before taking the transmitter apart, but it would not respond to left commands and only weakly to right commands. Forward and back were fine. Seems to me that something is intermittently failing/a bad connection. It started to respond to the commands when the aerial was manipulated VERY small amounts. Tried the new crystals but no change there. Looking at buying a second transmitter, thinking along the lines that the state of it someit must be going wrong in there (and its only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiyacowboy Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) Ive had the transmitter open today and half of it doesnt look to be in good shape. Alot of the components on half of the PCB were furry and looked water contaminated. I cleaned them up as best I could with a commutator brush as well as doing all other connections including battery contacts. BUT....still no improvement. I did manage to get the boat responding to the transmitter correctly this afternoon before taking the transmitter apart, but it would not respond to left commands and only weakly to right commands. Forward and back were fine. Seems to me that something is intermittently failing/a bad connection. It started to respond to the commands when the aerial was manipulated VERY small amounts. Tried the new crystals but no change there. Looking at buying a second transmitter, thinking along the lines that the state of it someit must be going wrong in there (and its only Edited May 1, 2014 by Tamiyacowboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyandDoug Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Thanks very much for you honest advice. If you recommend that we upgrade our handset and frequency that highly then we will. At the moment, we are in the middle of the fishing season (which was delayed by heavy rainfall in our local area) and really just need the boat up and running. I will certainly invest a bit of time and money in upgrading once the season has closed though. I'm going to pop to an RC shop in town this afternoon to see if I can borrow a controller to confirm if it's the controller or something within the boat. With regards to upgrading controller and frequency, physically, how difficult is it? Thanks for the response! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shudson Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I must admit that I have no knowledge or experience of bait boats, but having looked at the manufacturer's website, it seems that it does not have a rudder, but relies instead on varying the speed/direction of its twin props. This being the case, it may be the electronics in the boat that controls the motors that is playing up. It would be very unusual for a transmitter to just "pack up" in storage unless it has got wet, or something like that, previously. I think that there is a lot to be said for calling the manufacturer as, knowing the "ins and outs" of the system, I suspect that they would be able to narrow down the problem over the phone. There may even be some manual calibration settings on the boat that they can point you to that can solve the problem. Where are you located? There may well be an experienced member nearby that can sort it out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyandDoug Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 Thanks very much for your replies and input to this topic and helping me out. I was fortunate enough to borrow a friends handset/controller which the boat responded to correctly so have ordered a new handset as well as a spare to get us back on the water again. Thanks, and I'll have to say I've posted this topic in a few other forums but this particular forum has been the best. Thanks again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiyacowboy Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Your very welcome andy and doug, and thank you, we here in MSUK try and give the best advice , i had researched the 6v-12 boat systems a while back when building a wooden tug /pusher boat, and while researching jetpumps for models to. that could be an area you carp fishing chaps would gain benefit. my jetpump boat can run in a couple inch of water and is less prone to hangups / prop tangles. would be a wicked thing to see a couple of KMB jetpumps shoved into a procat 2 ( jetcat 2.5). its normally the control system ( ie handset - rx or the power system usually the speed control goes first) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaq Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Hi guys I have a carponizer 3 bait boat it was working fine but now i cant connect the controller to the baitboat anybody know whats wrong with it both of them r in working condition but just cant pair them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmart Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, Shaq said: Hi guys I have a carponizer 3 bait boat it was working fine but now i cant connect the controller to the baitboat anybody know whats wrong with it both of them r in working condition but just cant pair them Need more information Shaq... Video of what you used to do and the problem now... that would help? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaq Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Hi Carpmart I cant upload anything in here it says max size 1mb even a photo wont fit in here but anyway still not pairing 2gether today i try it and when i start the bait boat and the controller it did work for like 10 sec and than it stop pairing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugdug03 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) I have a waverunner shuttle bait boat, unfortunately It sunk about 16ft in depth, manged to recover it 3 days later, however only the led lights work when you turn it on, it won't respond to the handset, any ideas? I reckon it's probably a lost cause but thought id ask. Edited June 18, 2017 by dugdug03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turok007 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 On 18/06/2017 at 18:21, dugdug03 said: I have a waverunner shuttle bait boat, unfortunately It sunk about 16ft in depth, manged to recover it 3 days later, however only the led lights work when you turn it on, it won't respond to the handset, any ideas? I reckon it's probably a lost cause but thought id ask. take it all apart and dry it out. as water in the receiver box will cause issues but drying it all out over a couple of weeks might get it working again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony cooper Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Morning guys I've got a technicat mk2 and I can't pair the handset to the boat any ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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