Jefferson Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Hi All, having had a little outing yesterday with a couple of local peeps who run 1/8 buggies, i've decided this is certainly the direction for me to be heading in. Both of the buggies in question were Nitro - which is all well and good, but i certainly want to stay with electric (mainly due to my running spot) I currently have a firestorm - fully complete (brushless) which i'll move on to fund my little project. I'll keep my fusion ethos charger (assuming it does 4s lipo - which i'm sure it does) i'll also keep one of my hard case lipo's in anticipation (if i need to) in running 2 x 2s packs to give a 4s pack My real qustions are as follows..... 1) Would it be best to get a Ntiro non-runner or roller to convert, i've read the various threads surrounding Hyper 7 conversions and this does appeal - but the cost is likely to approach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jony nitro Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I do like the Inferno, over the Virus, it also depends on your budget aswell, if it was me I would either buy a converted one, or convert one yourself, and there are other forums aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross9999992 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 hi mate i'm currently in the progress of doing myself a hyper conversion and i'm thinking you could quite easily manage it well inside your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3lyc Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Why don't you go down the truggy route? I'm selling a complete brushless CRT roller, ready to drop electrics in. All you need apart from electrics are new wheels and tyres. This is quite possibly the cheapest way to get into brushless 1:8th Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 Cheers for the offer but its deffo a buggy I'm plumbing for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windsurfingman Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Personally I'd convert a nitro if you're technically minded and fancy a bit of messing about or get a Vorza if cash allows. Kyosho parts can be hard to get hold of and there isn't a lot of knowledge about the Ansmann 1/8th buggies though they are good value. There's plenty of info / knowledge on here re. conversions for a Hyper 7 and parts are plentiful and cheap. If you get a Kyosho or a Virus and something goes wrong you'll be left scratching your head. If you want RTR with good back up then a Vorza is the way to go, but it well over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 I'd certainly give a conversion a go, I'd say I understand the basics, I can solder ok, and would have no problem in putting together a tamiya kit etc, the only thing I reckon I'd be weary of is drilling or modding chassis parts as well as any gear diff stripping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windsurfingman Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Drilling can be a pain - you really need access to a pillar drill. I failed miserably with a power drill. Most conversion kits come with a battery mount so you might not need to drill at all - just depends where you want to put the ESC / battery. No need to strip the diffs. or modify anything else other than cutting the servo tray in two with a hacksaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz! Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 hi, i have the virus brushless. this is my opinion, i would buy a virus, mine has taken some hard knocks and still fighting fit!! plenty of spares for them on ebay, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit80 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Your battery bay is small on the Virus??? mine is huge - I could most likely fit a 4S2P in there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Have to say I do like the virus, the option o it coming in a kit is very appealing as well so I get a full understanding of building and re-building. The new deuce buggy also looks good, still a bit of research and pricing to be done before I leap, but deffo like the idea of having some building or construction part in the overall assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz! Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Your battery bay is small on the Virus??? mine is huge - I could most likely fit a 4S2P in there! not sure mate, but the turnigy 5200 2s batteries did not fit. had to make a alloy one to take a soft case 4s turnigy nanotech battery size was 136x48x50 my nano-tech battery was 150 long, hobbyking has the sizes down as being quite generous but i could not find a big capacity battery to fit in the original tray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevmister Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Why not a hotbodies ve8 180 quid get a tacon motor 2000 kv 40quid and a hobbywing esc 50 quid. Its a kit so you will have to build it keep in mind the battery box is small 150x49mm , but its pure race chassis Hi All, having had a little outing yesterday with a couple of local peeps who run 1/8 buggies, i've decided this is certainly the direction for me to be heading in. Both of the buggies in question were Nitro - which is all well and good, but i certainly want to stay with electric (mainly due to my running spot) I currently have a firestorm - fully complete (brushless) which i'll move on to fund my little project. I'll keep my fusion ethos charger (assuming it does 4s lipo - which i'm sure it does) i'll also keep one of my hard case lipo's in anticipation (if i need to) in running 2 x 2s packs to give a 4s pack My real qustions are as follows..... 1) Would it be best to get a Ntiro non-runner or roller to convert, i've read the various threads surrounding Hyper 7 conversions and this does appeal - but the cost is likely to approach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Looks a very interesting prospect, will have a read up on it and check out some vids. There's certainly a bit to choose from which is good, just making the right choice will be the key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevmister Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 i posted vids in the video section its titled tacon motor if you want to check it out Looks a very interesting prospect, will have a read up on it and check out some vids. There's certainly a bit to choose from which is good, just making the right choice will be the key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Seen te buds cheers, does look a very interesting prospect, loving the kit idea. Out of interest what esc are you running in it? I see you put ezrun above, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevmister Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 just point out that it has a mamba esc yeah its a great buggy very tough very light, you will have to alter your technique jumping its a bit nose heavy cos engine is in the front Seen te buds cheers, does look a very interesting prospect, loving the kit idea. Out of interest what esc are you running in it? I see you put ezrun above, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 update on this..... due to finances and (probable) lack of technical knowledge & tools for drilling etc i've decided i'd like to do the following.... 1) get a decent 1/8 kit - would need to be around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit80 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 The Virus 2.0 is only around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz! Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) The Virus 2.0 is only around £130 in kit form and will allow you to fit either nitro or brushless. Its very rugged as well - will take just about any punishment you could throw at it. You could then put a pretty decent ESC + motor in with the budget you have! either that or buy the electric rtr with 2.4ghz for £249. Edited June 22, 2011 by big gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 either that or buy the electric rtr with 2.4ghz for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz! Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 please dont take this as gospel but, the esc in the electric rtr virus is either 80a or 100a and takes 2-4s lipos the motor is 2250kv. i also think the esc is hobbywing or similar copy. now im well aware that the best is a mmm but this costs lots more than this set-up. if i had the time again, id still buy the virus. i was looking at the cage, looks great but i was informed by a good freind who knows his stuff in r/c and he did tell me not to bother. if you can push, the inferno is a good buy though. but for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eamo1978 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 If it were me id be buying a good condition roller for around hundred quid then a conversion kit for around 30/40 and a mmm 2650kv combo either off the forum or brand new from all e rc on ebay. Theyre usa based but customs wont sting you too much. That way youll have something much tougher than a virus and much much faster than the rtr version. Look into a losi 8ight 1.0 buggy roller, hobao hyper or hong nor x1 or x2. Ok hobby.com do some good cheap conversion kits bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy111 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I would not bother with the ve8 as you will struggle to find lipos to fit it and yes the chassis is plastic which is fine for racing but not good for bashing. I have the Losi 8ight-e 2.0 and its really impressed me at how good it drives and handles. They are expensive new though so if you can get a 1.0 or 2.0 roller and then buy the Losi electric conversion kit that would be my recommendation. The Virus ive heard is pretty good for the money though, dont know anything about the Deuce prob similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 thanks again for the good suggestions, think i'll eliminate the VE8, still drawn to the cage but will do some digging aruond for reviews and vids. completely hear what people are saying about a good roller, must say the hyper 7 does vastly attract, but i think my range of tools and access to required tools maybe a limiting factor - namely the drill for doing the chassis. Would i be roughly right in saying the following costwise for a hyper... Roller - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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