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#1 dazj10

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 08:23 PM

hi all , this may seem a stupid question , but is it possible to fit a kill switch to a nitro engine

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 08:28 PM

Nope, the way a petrol kill switch works is to short the spark plug, something nitros dont have, the glow plug is constantly glowing :good: as opposed to the spark plug that sparks when the piston is at the top of the cyclinder :good:

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 08:30 PM

right ok , thanks



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Posted 16 August 2010 - 10:00 PM

You maybe could set up a valve in the fuel line....make it servo controlled. On another channel. I would mean priming the engine each time but I dont see why it wouldn't work.
I have been thinking about doing this for a while with my third channel. Its just finding a place to mount it. I am also unsure as to the implications of doing this to your engine long term. I currently squeeze the fuel line but it doesn't complete get cut it just starves the engine and causes it to stall and cut out.

Just something to think about. I have been for a while now....but then I always think for all that effort why do I want a cut off switch. Its not like im gonna turn it off 500m away from me. It would be pointless, but it still want to do it just because.

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 09:07 AM

or just stick your foot on the fly wheel.. or finger if you dont have girly hands ^_^

Edited by badger906, 17 August 2010 - 09:07 AM.


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Posted 17 August 2010 - 09:57 AM

View Postbadger906, on 17 August 2010 - 09:07 AM, said:

or just stick your foot on the fly wheel.. or finger if you dont have girly hands ^_^

So how do you wire that up to the third channel?Posted Image

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 06:00 PM

View PostSmoothybb, on 17 August 2010 - 09:57 AM, said:

So how do you wire that up to the third channel?Posted Image


LMAO

Edited by jon450, 17 August 2010 - 06:01 PM.


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Posted 17 August 2010 - 06:06 PM

View Postbadger906, on 17 August 2010 - 09:07 AM, said:

or just stick your foot on the fly wheel.. or finger if you dont have girly hands ^_^


its abit hard to stop the flywheel when ya car is goin full pelt across a field mate LOL

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 06:13 PM

nitros stall anyway :P pretty sure the savage had a quick stop thing that wedged the flywheel?

correct me if i'm wrong...

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 06:14 PM

the only reasons a petrol has a remote killswitch is because they can. and the americans saw a way they could make money out of playing on peoples fears. a nitro doesnt need a killswitch, in fact. if you take care enough you could wing it without a failsafe. but i wouldnt advise that. what i will say. is a decent radio setup with a reliable failsafe and well setup wiring and maybe a throttle return spring for the most cautious will cover you for pretty much all the eventualities.

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 06:17 PM

View Postadolf hamster, on 17 August 2010 - 06:14 PM, said:

the only reasons a petrol has a remote killswitch is because they can. and the americans saw a way they could make money out of playing on peoples fears. a nitro doesnt need a killswitch, in fact. if you take care enough you could wing it without a failsafe. but i wouldnt advise that. what i will say. is a decent radio setup with a reliable failsafe and well setup wiring and maybe a throttle return spring for the most cautious will cover you for pretty much all the eventualities.


never thaught of a return spring *slaps head* :whistling:

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 06:34 PM

View Postadolf hamster, on 17 August 2010 - 06:14 PM, said:

the only reasons a petrol has a remote killswitch is because they can. and the americans saw a way they could make money out of playing on peoples fears. a nitro doesnt need a killswitch, in fact. if you take care enough you could wing it without a failsafe. but i wouldnt advise that. what i will say. is a decent radio setup with a reliable failsafe and well setup wiring and maybe a throttle return spring for the most cautious will cover you for pretty much all the eventualities.


i,ve got 2.4 set up with built in f/s and a seperate f/s so the only way is like you say. throttle return, spring but wouldnt this lessen the battery time and servo lifespan, has the servo has to pull against the spring , causing strain on the gears and the servo needing more force to pull the throttle would take more battery, i might be wrong but it seems logical to me

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 06:58 PM

View Postdazj10, on 17 August 2010 - 06:34 PM, said:

i,ve got 2.4 set up with built in f/s and a seperate f/s so the only way is like you say. throttle return, spring but wouldnt this lessen the battery time and servo lifespan, has the servo has to pull against the spring , causing strain on the gears and the servo needing more force to pull the throttle would take more battery, i might be wrong but it seems logical to me


makes sense since you would need a strong spring to be able to pull the servo too

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 07:35 PM

View Postdazj10, on 17 August 2010 - 06:34 PM, said:

i,ve got 2.4 set up with built in f/s and a seperate f/s so the only way is like you say. throttle return, spring but wouldnt this lessen the battery time and servo lifespan, has the servo has to pull against the spring , causing strain on the gears and the servo needing more force to pull the throttle would take more battery, i might be wrong but it seems logical to me

this is true. however remember that a slight maladjustment in the linkage can do just as much in terms of extra load to the servo. personally i like the idea. but the only thing it protects against is total battery failure [that a failsafe wont do] and that is both rare and can be prevented by the cunning use of cable ties, regular charging and maintenence of the electronics.

View PostHATZY, on 17 August 2010 - 06:58 PM, said:

makes sense since you would need a strong spring to be able to pull the servo too


not really. depends on the servo. your right though some do take a lot to move back to position. but others [especially higher end servo's ive noticed] are easier to pull back to position so wont need as strong a spring

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 07:54 PM

My Savage Is fairly bulletproof to this the 2.4ghz has a built in failsafe and there is a spring anyway! Hpi tend to think of everything IMO.




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