melvins913 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) So after catching the leccy bug, I made my mind up on building a SCX10. DMS racing had the Jeep Wrangler G6 kit for Edited March 25, 2015 by melvins913 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 If you don't mind me asking, why brushless over brushed? For mods/upgrades, I'd highly recommend some better shocks, Axial ones are crap... They leak and just aren't sprung very nice. Next would be some alloy knuckles and some CVD's. I got all mine from AsiaTees, I'm using Boom Racing Boomerang Type 1's on a 50/50 droop set up and they're really nice shocks! I run Boom Racing knuckles and c hubs with Axial CVD's, again from AsiaTees and it gives it really nice lock! Aside form that, they're pretty good. Unless you're dead set on a brushless set up, I'd consider looking at the Hobbywing 1060 ESC, it's great, fully waterproof, very good drag brake, 3s capable if you should want to run 3s, although it's overkill in these rigs and under 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvins913 Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 I was hoping that you'd pop into this thread I mainly want to go brushless for motor reliability. Thank you for the heads up on the shocks, knuckles, and CVDs. I'll have a butchers on Asiatees and start pricing up some goodies. If you don't mind me asking, why brushless over brushed? For mods/upgrades, I'd highly recommend some better shocks, Axial ones are crap... They leak and just aren't sprung very nice. Next would be some alloy knuckles and some CVD's. I got all mine from AsiaTees, I'm using Boom Racing Boomerang Type 1's on a 50/50 droop set up and they're really nice shocks! I run Boom Racing knuckles and c hubs with Axial CVD's, again from AsiaTees and it gives it really nice lock! Aside form that, they're pretty good. Unless you're dead set on a brushless set up, I'd consider looking at the Hobbywing 1060 ESC, it's great, fully waterproof, very good drag brake, 3s capable if you should want to run 3s, although it's overkill in these rigs and under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Why's that? And brushless aren't really anymore reliable than brushed. You've also got the issue of how waterproof they are, along with how waterproof the ESC is. Brushed motors are fully waterproof to clean water, even though mines been through the mill and back lol. If you buy a decent brand to begin with, then theirs nothing wrong with brushed motors matey You'd have to spend a bit to get a nice waterproof sensored set up. You could of course waterproof it yourself, but then your warranty is void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvins913 Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 I've been reading through your build threads and always love what you do I was going to avoid running it through water so I didn't have to deal with rust, so water proofing isn't a huge concern. With brushed motors do you still have to replace the brushes? I may have to have a look at some brushed setups as well then if you recommend using them. Decisions decisions lol Why's that? And brushless aren't really anymore reliable than brushed. You've also got the issue of how waterproof they are, along with how waterproof the ESC is. Brushed motors are fully waterproof to clean water, even though mines been through the mill and back lol. If you buy a decent brand to begin with, then theirs nothing wrong with brushed motors matey You'd have to spend a bit to get a nice waterproof sensored set up. You could of course waterproof it yourself, but then your warranty is void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Well cheers, glad you like 'em People do advise changing them when they get worn, that's rebuildable motors though. I can't personally advise as I don't use rebuildable ones, I just use throw away ones as I've found them to last ages and ages, especially Axial ones, but these RC4WD ones are lasting well too. Hmmm, no water? I thought the same, until I saw a puddle and it was like my rig was magnetic to water ! You might be surprised how good fun it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvins913 Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 Are these what you use?http://www.modelsport.co.uk/axial-27t-electric-motor/rc-car-products/368081http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hobbywing-QUICRUN-1060-60A-Waterproof-Brushed-ESC-for-1-10-Scale-Truck-Crawler-/281524850953?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item418c305109 For that price Id be a fool not to go for it Lol yea I plan to stay away from puddles but weather or not i'll be able to resist driving it in I don't know lol Well cheers, glad you like 'em People do advise changing them when they get worn, that's rebuildable motors though. I can't personally advise as I don't use rebuildable ones, I just use throw away ones as I've found them to last ages and ages, especially Axial ones, but these RC4WD ones are lasting well too. Hmmm, no water? I thought the same, until I saw a puddle and it was like my rig was magnetic to water ! You might be surprised how good fun it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Certainly are, but for the sake of about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvins913 Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 Added to my cart What sort of torque should I be looking at for the servo? was looking at something like thishttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turnigy-Power-HD-1501MG-High-Torque-Servo-17kg-cm-0-14s-Waterproof-Metal-Gear-/321583502346?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4adfded40a Cheers Certainly are, but for the sake of about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini-z-awd Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Added to my cart What sort of torque should I be looking at for the servo? was looking at something like thishttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turnigy-Power-HD-1501MG-High-Torque-Servo-17kg-cm-0-14s-Waterproof-Metal-Gear-/321583502346?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4adfded40a Cheers that servo may abit overkill at 15 kg i had one in a baja 5b and a savage xs mini also try hobbyking they sell the samae servo for less i think i paid about 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvins913 Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 Motor, esc, and servo ordered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I run a Hitec 646 in mine and it seems enough for what I do. Just got the new PowerHD 20kg jobby though for the G2, if that's good I might get one in the SCX10 too, do a home waterproof job and if I do happen to fry it, well, it's only a few quid and I'll already have the Hitec to go back in. Be good to get your thoughts on the motor and ESC combo when it arrives and you give it a test Just be sure the little plugs in the ESC are in the correct places, mainly the LiPo one for switching between LiPo and NiMH. If you completely remove the other plug that 'programs' the drive of the ESC, it enables the drag brake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvins913 Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 I just ordered another Altern Servo, same as whats in my 22sct as it seems to do a good job in that. Whats the best way of water proofing it? Might do it with mine just incase it decides it wants to go for a swim lol. I'll defo let you know how I get on with it Cheers for the tips, I'll post up some pics of how I set it up I run a Hitec 646 in mine and it seems enough for what I do. Just got the new PowerHD 20kg jobby though for the G2, if that's good I might get one in the SCX10 too, do a home waterproof job and if I do happen to fry it, well, it's only a few quid and I'll already have the Hitec to go back in. Be good to get your thoughts on the motor and ESC combo when it arrives and you give it a test Just be sure the little plugs in the ESC are in the correct places, mainly the LiPo one for switching between LiPo and NiMH. If you completely remove the other plug that 'programs' the drive of the ESC, it enables the drag brake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ostewart Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I have found that using some silicone from RCbitz, open the servo and coat as much of the electronics as you can with it. It dries and waterproofs it, then put some around all seals and where the cable comes out. Use some thick silicone grease on the spline out put. Then on the outside some silicone grease where the spline exits and an o-ring that fits tightly, the it gets squashed down when you put the horn on. Worked great with my alturn in my Ascender, which got fully submerged on a few occasions (drove it in to a pond etc...) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvins913 Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) I've started the build and I have come across my 1st problem. Im building the drive shafts but when I screw the casing together the dogbones won't rotate and input shaft is very notchy. guessing the gear mesh isn't right? how can I correct this? EDIT: problem solved, bevel gear wasn't fully seated Edited March 26, 2015 by melvins913 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvins913 Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 Axles built very simple to do, only issue I had was that the bevel gear on the front axle wouldn't seat properly and I really had to force it in there. I was watching Joe Ferguson's videos as well which are a great watchhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsOrUotsbgajVIMUqSCKBMo1FMjDVTHH0&spfreload=10 Now I have to go and do some food shopping with the missus Hopefully I can do some more this evening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvins913 Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 todays efforts Was really hoping to get more done today, always tomorrow I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeze Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Good work and don't worry about how far you get, just enjoy the build Kit builds that tasks a few nights always feel a lot more satisfying when you're done 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Agreed, it's pretty crap when they're finished in 3 hours lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvins913 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 yea ill be sad when its finished lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 You know what happens when you finish it? You have to buy another 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewbacca Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 You know what happens when you finish it? You have to buy another If you finish an RC you're doing it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 If you finish an RC you're doing it wrong. Finish the kit build Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewbacca Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Finish the kit build Yeah yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvins913 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 This is my 3rd build within as many months Got some more done today This shaft has a little back and forth movement, is this normal? It all runs smooth and theres no binding or noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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