Bigyeti007 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 So how many have put there order in? I had a go with one today and tbo I was very surprised at how capable it was for being stock! It kept up with my modded scx10 no problems. I can't see a downside to this car,I've ordered one just now! In stock form this is superior to the scx10, you just have to look at the specs. I'm going to be doing a thread(first one)???? on the build. Really looking forward to this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistonhead Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 There is a couple of build threads on here. But it's not just about performance for me, the SCX10 is a proven platform on both durability and stock and aftermarket parts availabilty. I'm waiting on some long term reviews in both the kit and rtr which is being released soon before i buy one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCbutcher Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Ive been following one of the builds on here they sound very good and if this keeps up all the scx10 suppliers will cater for the assender too. rc4wd and vanquish probably already have plans. Its the best competitor for the scx10 imo cos the trail finder costs so much more. Axial will have a kick up the bum too unless axial and vatterra are both under horizon. Hobbico is one mother company crapping on rc brands they've down graded all hpi models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the watchman Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Its a awesome truck, build quality is fantastic, performance is great,price is great, its quite simply a superb truck. I would buy one over a scx10 anyday, i loved my scx for years but for me its time to move on now. You will always get axial fan boys that will slate other crawlers and defend axial no matter what, why?? I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigyeti007 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 I totally agree, out of the two the new ascender is clearly the winner of the two. I love my axial and I've put Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz! Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 There is a couple of build threads on here. But it's not just about performance for me, the SCX10 is a proven platform on both durability and stock and aftermarket parts availabilty. I'm waiting on some long term reviews in both the kit and rtr which is being released soon before i buy one. this is true ^^^^^ fanboi or not, i have had enough brands of scalers in the past to know where my loyalty lies, firmly with axial. each to there own though, makes the world go round. the really only good thing about the asscender is the "slight" competition it will give axial...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigyeti007 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 I think axial should take note! Honestly I've put a few hundred into my scx10 and the ascender completely stock kept up 100% . I'm a big axial fan but there's no doubting the quality of the new kid on the block. Since actually spending some time with one I'm positive it's better 100% but like you all say will it be as strongly built? Only time will tell on that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistonhead Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Crownwheels and pinions, then the drive/prop shafts seem to be weak points after looking at videos on YouTube and a couple of reviews. They were mostly using similar setups to what the rtr is equipped with. Never had or heard of any problems with the stock drive train on the scx10... Edited November 7, 2014 by Pistonhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaZero Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) I would not even consider one until they have been around at least a year and the kinks if any are ironed out or after-market upgrades are available. Edited November 8, 2014 by AlphaZero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the watchman Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Scx10's had issues when they were first released, i cant understand why anybody thinks a scx10 is a better bet. Most scx10's have upgrades fitted in some shape or form, hubs get upgraded, shafts get upgraded, horrid plastic links get changed for metal ones, every one fits cvd's to them because they have the turning circle of the moon if you do not, the list goes on and on, yet people are complaining this "may" have a couple of issues, one being the drive shafts and the other being the ring and pinion gear, correct me if im wrong here but nearly everybody i know who has a scx10 have upgraded the wb8 shafts, me included, axial also do a hd ring and pinion gear becuase on some applications the stock gears are not up to the job, so i fail to see what the problem is with the ascender when everybody fits loads of upgrades to axial cheese flavour stuff. Mip already do upgraded shafts which are very nice indeed, these will NOT break at all, thats that problem solved, i have shimed my ring and pinion gear properly and so far after roughly 20 hours use its all good even on 3s lipo, those that have had them fail have been replaced under warranty i think. The other point is this, i have both a scx10 jeep kit and this ascender, how can anybody make a judgement when they have not used one, built one or even seen one in the flesh, quite simply you can not make that judgement, i can because i do have both of them, the ascender is a much nicer, more scale looking kit that performance wise equals a hopped up scx right out the box, its far more adjustable than a scx as i can simply choose 4 wheel bases 2 of which are the same as a dingo or honcho, plus i got a extra 2 wheelbases to choose from, in that area its a no brainer. The shocks on my ascender are lovely, albiet plastic but unlike axials shocks these do not leak at all, there also much smoother than axial shocks, again another upgrade thats needed on a scx10, its not needed on this ascender. As far i can see its been pretty well received in the crawler world, bar your axial fan boi's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz! Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 as ive posted before, each to there very own fella the main point for me is this, take the twin hammers, great idea in principle but "thrown together" with toy grade plastics, issues from the box etc. now dont get me wrong, the radio gear supplied blows axial stuff out of the water as does the servo but the esc and motor are poor compared to axials offerings. this put me off the "new" brand out there full stop...... as for upgrades, i cant think of many that dont need upgrades in any class of rc. the wheelbase lengths have no bearing either, most people make there own links to suit the shell they would like to use. as for plastic links, there not bad, not great but they work and to some degree a little bit of flex is good as it takes the strain from other components. ive had many different brands of rc in my sticky fingers and spent some silly money in the past but from all that i have gained some valuable experience as well as from friends in the know too so i think im experienced enough to make my own judgements. as long as your happy then whats the problem?? all i add is that for the money i would rather go for the proven route over something new with "maybe" the back up axial have lacking for vattera. maybe down the line when these are proven i may just eat my words but for now, the proven is still on top, fan boi or not..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaZero Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I'm not sure how it's being a fan boy if people are wanting to stick with what has been tried and tested, The Ascender looks to be a good base and if it pushes axial to up there game I'm all for it, however until the Ascender has been around a while and the parts support is there for it's not an option I personally would consider. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tchy Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I have built my Ascender and driven it 3 times with no problems. The turning circle beats a stock SCX easily ( my nephew has one), and it drives as good if not better. Most people upgrade their SCX's With driveshafts, transmission gears, beef tubes to stop the axles breaking etc. Time will tell what breaks, but at the moment my axial based truck is sitting on the shelf or in the car boot in case the Ascender breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ostewart Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Just ordered an Ascender, going to paint it black with white roof. Ordered g-made beadlocks with interco IROK tires, Sidewinder 3 ESC with usb programming, Novak rock star expert 35t motor, Alturn servo (home waterproofed) 16.6kg/0.19s @ 4.8v and 2 shorty integy 4200mah lipos's. Can't wait, kit should arrive tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the watchman Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Just ordered an Ascender, going to paint it black with white roof. Ordered g-made beadlocks with interco IROK tires, Sidewinder 3 ESC with usb programming, Novak rock star expert 35t motor, Alturn servo (home waterproofed) 16.6kg/0.19s @ 4.8v and 2 shorty integy 4200mah lipos's. Can't wait, kit should arrive tomorrow. Awesome, you will see when its built mate its a really nice scale crawler, really nice quality, your spec list is very simlar to mine, im running g-made beadlocks but with stock tyres, the interco iroks are a superb tyre but honestly buddy the stock tyres are just as good imo, so you could save some cash on those unless you just love look of the interco's. Im also running a alturn servo the 16kg jobie but i have plasti dipped it, does the job just fine Enjoy the build buddy its quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ostewart Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Hows the alturn servo in the Ascender? What motor esc are you running? Good to hear the stock tires are just as good, but I do prefer the looks of the irok. Do you happen to know if weighting the wheels or making the foams star shaped is necessary? Thanks! It will arrive tomorrow, should take a few days for everything to arrive for it and whatnot. Next week I hope to have it running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the watchman Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 The alturn is doing great, i run a few alturn servo's in different rc's and never had a problem. Im running a 27t brushed etroniks motor and a rc4wd outcry esc to great effect, its super smooth and speed/power wise i find just right, i also love the iroks and i run a set on my scx jeep rubbicon. Regarding the wheels i normaly run them weighted but upon receiving the g-made vr02 beadlocks i found them to be quite a heavy rim so i did not bother adding weight, i may do though in the near future, although to be honest i find its not been needed as it crawls very very well, its a very hard truck to tumble over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ostewart Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Ascender arrived, building now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the watchman Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Let us know what you think bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ostewart Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I will. Loving the build so far, quality seems great. Can't paint it due to rain Only built gear box and have started front axle so far. More tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the watchman Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Im going a different route now with my ascender, im getting rid of the stock body and im fitting a hard body instead, i have seen a toyota landcruiser that i like very much, also has 313mm wheel base so will suit it perfectly, the axles may need to be shortened a little so the tyres tuck under the arches nicely instead of poking way out past the body, it doesnt look very scale at all imo when the tyres stick right out, but we shall see when i receive the body if this is needed, i think i will need smaller tyres also, like less than 100mm to suit it, theres so many body options with this truck basicly all of them will fit lol, nothing at all wrong with the blazer but i do like a nice hard body. Ill post some pics when the new body arrives, ive got it all planned out in my head i just need the time to get it done lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GilbertRC1 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Having had experience with Vaterra cars i can honestly say that the other companies are missing a trick. That trick being stock packages, of all the cars on the market Vaterra cars come with the best RTR package and the upgrades are perfect in the kit versions, next to an SCX10 i would choose the ascender any day. Ben. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tchy Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) Im going a different route now with my ascender, im getting rid of the stock body and im fitting a hard body instead, i have seen a toyota landcruiser that i like very much, also has 313mm wheel base so will suit it perfectly, the axles may need to be shortened a little so the tyres tuck under the arches nicely instead of poking way out past the body, it doesnt look very scale at all imo when the tyres stick right out, but we shall see when i receive the body if this is needed, i think i will need smaller tyres also, like less than 100mm to suit it, theres so many body options with this truck basicly all of them will fit lol, nothing at all wrong with the blazer but i do like a nice hard body. Ill post some pics when the new body arrives, ive got it all planned out in my head i just need the time to get it done lol. The axles are designed to be narrowed easily up to 12mm. There are instructions on Rccrawler from one of the vaterra guys. http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/vaterra-ascender-1986-chevrolet-k-5-blazer/506691-how-shorten-your-ascender-axle-housing-track-width.html Also check the ring and pinion mesh on each axle as it seems to be a bit slack and might need shimming. Edited November 12, 2014 by M1tchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the watchman Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 The axles are designed to be narrowed easily up to 12mm. There are instructions on Rccrawler from one of the vaterra guys. http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/vaterra-ascender-1986-chevrolet-k-5-blazer/506691-how-shorten-your-ascender-axle-housing-track-width.html Also check the ring and pinion mesh on each axle as it seems to be a bit slack and might need shimming. Yeah cheers buddy, im a member of rccrawler already but i have not read that thread yet, i had seen on there you can do it i just hadnt looked, cheers though buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ostewart Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) I'm still waiting on electrics to arrive. Apex only shipped my bits yesterday Got chassis together, along with axles and shocks, putting together suspension links today. Might get g-made piggyback shocks or something like that. Stock seem fine but I do love alum shocks. And have g-made on my blitz. Body is nearly painted too, must got to do the white on the roof section. All in all loving the build, good fun. Just waiting for more parts to arrive, the Interco IROK tires seem very soft and sticky, nice Also thinking of getting a land rover defender body would have to shorten axles but no problem for me Edited November 14, 2014 by ostewart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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