jonnoaway Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Hi all I would like to get into planes, i flew a glider 20 years ago but have not touched one since so i guess i could be called a Newbe. Im interested in either a Hobbyzone super cub or the E-flight apprentice, any recommendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnoaway Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 I should also mention that i plan to learn without an instructor, if thats possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothybb Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/topic/197264-hobbyzone-deltaray-rtf/ I went the powered glider route with a bixler (clone of others), others suggest the WOT or super cub like you suggested. High wing trainers are standard noob first timers. Depends what you wanna do, back to the glider type or more 'normal' flying with the scale models. Have a look in here, plenty of first plane questions like yours; http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/forum/76-general-flight/ Edited July 29, 2014 by Smoothybb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnoaway Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 I would like to in the end go down the scale route, i am currently building a SLEC Sky 40 but before i get that in the air i wanted to learn on something more forgiving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothybb Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 The WOT4 seems to get the most upvotes for beginners. Never had one but from what I read, really smooth on mid-throttle but as you open up the throttle and throws, will give you a bit more of a challenging time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnoaway Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Is it possible to learn to fly with a WOT4 without an instructor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothybb Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) You can learn to fly anything without an instructor. You just crash more. I've never buddy boxed, just had a mate to help with setting up and then started throwing the thing. That's just me though, not one for patience/watching/learning, that's why my sonic has massive glue lines down each wing and pretty much everywhere else. If you want to go without help, do some hours on a sim, preferably with the controller you're going to use. It's not the same but it helps. Things happen a lot quicker in real life and you will panic at times, that's when an instructor or buddy boxed mate comes into their own. I chose foamies to learn with cos you can just glue them back together. The best advice is always to fly with someone that knows what they're doing on a buddy box if possible. Edited July 30, 2014 by Smoothybb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamiyacowboy Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) the Cub is a lovely flyer, we call these types floaters as thats what they feel like flying. yes they can do loops and rolls, stall turns and even fly inverted, but as a trainer they are nice solid standard high wings. the mention of bixler. bixler is really a glider in a floater guize , has a motor but also that high wing it means it is stable and WILL climb like crazy, so a flaoter again but has the ability to grow with a pilot. both aircraft are nice both can be learner and should be looked at more, the bixler is more a build yourself where you are in control of whats added like a camera, a bigger battery for even longer flights or even a full telemetry and first person view camera. the choice is more open for a pilot. the old 20yr glider, any clues on the model make, nodoubt we could find plans and even give it a 2014 technology boost update bring a vintage glider into the 21st century Edited July 30, 2014 by Tamiyacowboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothybb Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Bix3 Trainer just released by the look of it. now available on the HK site after a few teaser vids (in the background). Looks like they're aiming it more towards the beginner crowd than the extended flight/FPV'ers. Bix 1.1 out of stock for a while now, HK representatives say it's coming back due to demand. If it does, I'm getting one, to keep in reserve, before they disappear again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnoaway Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 I am using my sim most days connected to my DX8, so my TX is sorted. I have a few helis that I'm learning to fly too. I like the look of the super cub but would like something 4ch as i know i will loose interest very quickly once i get the hang of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydro Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 you could alway add the fourth channel to give you full control i/e aileron elevator rudder and throttle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnoaway Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 There is a lot of talk about the WOT4 foame's, which one is the most ideal for beginners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brit_bulldog Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 If you want a Scale trainer then go for a J3 Cub or clipped Wing version. Whatever make you choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnoaway Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 Thinking of going for the Bixler 2, any thoughts on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothybb Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 From what I read, it needs upgrading out of the box but is a good plane once sorted. It's more for gliding and FPV though so if you're looking for something with some agility for later on, I think you might get bored. The 1.1 got more thumbs up than the 2. You could wait for some reviews on the 3 but you'll be finding out the weaknesses for yourself, better left until there's a few experienced pilots ironed out the mods needed. If you do the mods, it could be a good entry plane, it's easy to fly slowly and stays in the air on it's own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnoaway Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) What other options similar to the bixler are there as the availability of the Bixler is poor. Any thoughts on the Easy glider Pro? would these be suitable for beginners? There is lots of choice out there so all the input i can get the better. Edited August 3, 2014 by jonnoaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothybb Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 This one's a bit smaller but also seems to get the thumbs up. Nice and budgie to get you started: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8359 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnoaway Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 Problem with Hobby king is the planes I'm looking at are all on backorder and i have cash sat here, The floater jet looks good too but like all the others, on backorder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothybb Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) Yeah I see, didn't check which warehouse had stock. There's a UK area on RCgroups which might come up with some suggestions for UK based stock. Edited August 3, 2014 by Smoothybb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnoaway Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 I do like the look of the multiplex easy star 2, very much like the bixler, will try to find one in stock..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothybb Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Kings Lynn models have them in stock, allegedly. There's a artf in germany on fleabay, pricey postage but claims to be here by Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCMonkee Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I got the floater jet form HK. So far very impressed for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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