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Soldering & wiring


JBowers270

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My new electric combo arrived today (tenshock sc411 and 120a hobbywing sc pro) and as this will be first soldering job thought I'd just check a few things.

First, both the motor and esc have wires pre soldered. Would it be best to unsolder one and not use a connection or just solder in a connecter (I've got 4mm bullets I can use). If unsoldering is this easy and which one is best to do it on (can't see bare wire on motor so guess at esc?)

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Secondly, wiring the bullets (as will at least need this for battery), what are the little holes in the side of the connectors for? And is it just shrink wrap that holds the wire in place in the red casing?

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Cheers!

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If you plan on changing the motor often, then you could install connectors between the motor and ESC. If it is going to be a more or less permanent installation, then solder it direct. Use the solder posts on the ESC to solder to, don't try removing the wires from the motor.

 

As far as the connectors go, I haven't used that type before. I expect you thread the wire through the plastic casing and then solder into the ends of the bullets before pulling the wire and connector into place. The holes don't do anything except maybe make it easier for solder to flow. But are you sure you want that kind of bullet connector? What connector does your LiPo have on it? Normally they have either bullet sockets or a Deans as standard.

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whatever you do.

 

DO NOT CUT THE WIRES ON THAT MOTOR!

 

IM0:  improve your soldering skills with something that doesn't matter 1st.  and or use connectors to the esc.  Last thing u want is too destroy your new ESC ;)

 

desoldering is easy with the correct iron, just don't forget u need a little solder on the tip for heat transfer.  you don't want the soldering tip to be heating the metal for longer then 6-7 sec.   Once u see the solder melt it'll just come loose on it'S own,. no need for pulling yanking or the likes.

 

NB:// practice makes perfect.  But please do use 63/37 solder with a rosin core flux + extra rosin core flux.  Makes it super easy ;)

 

What iron and or station are u using?

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I wouldn't unsolder that ESC, I think you'll be binning it soon after. There are no solder posts for a reason.

Get some bullets, female on the ESC side. 4, 5.5, 6 or 6.5mm.

The cables on the motor look like the flexible type, if they're bendy, they can be shortened, but keep all three the same length.

The cables from the ESC can be shortened. Again, keep them at identical lengths.

Don't make anything too short, you might want to move the combo to another model at some point.

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Just to chime in with a bit of info;

 

The holes in the side of the connectors are witness holes, they are used to see if the conductor is correctly seated inside the connector before and after the termination is made permanent through soldering or crimping. 

 

Not really needed for this kind of application, but essential when dealing with high tolerance systems that demand minimal losses in connections ( such as Aviation Electronics / Electrics )

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Just got some 4mm bullet connectors.  I thought you pushed the bare wires through the plastic cover, soldered then pulled back the wires and they clicked into position.

 

On the connectors I have that just isnt possible. The diameter of the smaller hole on the cover is smaller than the actual bullet so they cannot be pulled back through.

 

I tried pushing them from the back, a lot less practical.  This worked for the bigger diameter and it clicked in.  The smaller one though still won't go.  And that pushing them in with a screwdriver.  Way more force than could be applied if soldered up.

 

Am I being an idiot and missing something really obvious here?

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On the right is a connector off a hobbyking battery.  I changed it to deans for a quick fix but i'm reinstating the bullet connectors.  In the middle you can see the larger side allowing the bullet in and the smaller side not.  The left one assembled in reverse is just to highlight the problem.  Hope that makes sense

 

 

 

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In the last picture it looks like the contacts have a small shoulder just after the solder cup.

Makes me think they should be pushed into the sleeves from the other side. Once they are in they will click into place.

Solder the, on first though as once they are located they might not easily come back out again.

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The larger side will click in that way but the smaller still won't, and that's pushing it with a screwdriver.  I'd have to heat the cover with the heatgun to have any chance.

 

I'm so glad I bought 20 pairs of backwards connectors, ha

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Right with the persuader (hammer)  Its clicked in the smaller side.

 

With the wires soldered in though I'll never be able to get that much force on it from directly behind the bullet.  Thinking I should look for the normal type ones you pull back through.

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After in and out a few times its still too stiff to be use-able.

 

A 5.5mm drill up the back and it seems ok, reasonable force is needed then. Still a ball ache for what should be a simple job.  

 

Thanks for the help people

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