RC4WD fan Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Ok so have been bashing and crawling in the garden today with the wraith all going good well apart from braking 3 servo horns but now the servo has brok I'm 100% sure it has stripped the gears now I've been reading on a couple of different forums that savox/CML will only fix/replace it if it's to do with the elections part is that true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover Man Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 If you broke 3 horns then stripped the gears something is VERY wrong with your setup. Find out what it is before fitting another servo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Kimsbrough servo saver. Wraiths are notorious for ripping servos, even high end ones, the size of the wheels/tyres coupled with the weight and open wheels. Chances are they won't sort it for you, but it might be worth E-Mailing. It's unlikely theirs anything particularly wrong in your servo up, but an alloy horn and titanium gears is very advisable in a Wraith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC4WD fan Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Rover Man said: If you broke 3 horns then stripped the gears something is VERY wrong with your setup. Find out what it is before fitting another servo don't think there's anything wrong with the setup but the bashing part it was beeing jump and taking big hits on the landings as most of the weight is up front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC4WD fan Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, Oh How Original said: Kimsbrough servo saver. Wraiths are notorious for ripping servos, even high end ones, the size of the wheels/tyres coupled with the weight and open wheels. Chances are they won't sort it for you, but it might be worth E-Mailing. It's unlikely theirs anything particularly wrong in your servo up, but an alloy horn and titanium gears is very advisable in a Wraith. I don't think they will to be honest just going to have to accept my loss it is CML that I email isn't it ? didn't think of using a servo saver ill look in to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Also something to remember, if you're going to do anything with a bit of speed and especially jumping, then don't have a drag brake enabled, the moment you let the power off, the brake is on, if you're in the air, it will always nose dive. The wheels need to be free spinning for jumping, even small ones. Yes, E-Mail CML Distributors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC4WD fan Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Oh How Original said: Also something to remember, if you're going to do anything with a bit of speed and especially jumping, then don't have a drag brake enabled, the moment you let the power off, the brake is on, if you're in the air, it will always nose dive. The wheels need to be free spinning for jumping, even small ones. Yes, E-Mail CML Distributors. I dont have the drag brake on when bashing anyway and the front wheels are weighted so that doesn't help I'll drop them a line and see what happens nothing probably Edited June 26, 2016 by RC4WD fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Weighted wheels are a silly idea. The weight will be extra strain on the drivetrain, because it's rotational and won't be even (no matter how much you think it is lol) so remove the weights, that won't be helping anything at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC4WD fan Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Oh How Original said: Weighted wheels are a silly idea. The weight will be extra strain on the drivetrain, because it's rotational and won't be even (no matter how much you think it is lol) so remove the weights, that won't be helping anything at all I can ensure you that it's the first and only time I ever put weights in the wheels Edited June 26, 2016 by RC4WD fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh How Original Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Never understood why people do it, I once did and noticed the problem right away. Adding more weight isn't the answer... Keeping the initial weight low is the answer. Although beef tubes do add weight, they are so low, it makes sense to add those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC4WD fan Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 Is there anywhere that do new gear sets or upgraded gear sets ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 CML will not honour a stripped gear warranty, simple as. Burnt out boards they will honour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC4WD fan Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 4 hours ago, Noj said: CML will not honour a stripped gear warranty, simple as. Burnt out boards they will honour. fair enough but as it's apparent that there not going to do anything I took it apart this morning and there was no stripped gears from what i can see is the midel gear has 2 parts a little gear that a bigger gear attaches to it seems to be the friction that holds it together and stop it spinning where it joins but mine doesn't it spins whenever you put any pressure to move the gears when i get home I'll upload some pics of what I mean as I'm not very good at wording things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ostewart Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 17 minutes ago, RC4WD fan said: fair enough but as it's apparent that there not going to do anything I took it apart this morning and there was no stripped gears from what i can see is the midel gear has 2 parts a little gear that a bigger gear attaches to it seems to be the friction that holds it together and stop it spinning where it joins but mine doesn't it spins whenever you put any pressure to move the gears when i get home I'll upload some pics of what I mean as I'm not very good at wording things That's what happened to 2 x Xpert WR-7701 servos in my Bomber. Like a wraith it needs a strong servo, I had a Hitec HS-7980 and it died from water damaged (no gear issues), got it replaced by a HS-7950. Waterproofed that one and we shall see how well it does. But should be fine. For a wraith you need a good servo as there is no give between the servo and wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC4WD fan Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, ostewart said: That's what happened to 2 x Xpert WR-7701 servos in my Bomber. Like a wraith it needs a strong servo, I had a Hitec HS-7980 and it died from water damaged (no gear issues), got it replaced by a HS-7950. Waterproofed that one and we shall see how well it does. But should be fine. For a wraith you need a good servo as there is no give between the servo and wheels. I know you need a good servo mate but the one you have at around £80/£100 well for the ones that I've been looking at in the uk anyway I can't justify spending the much for something that will probably break at some point and will only be used every now and then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC4WD fan Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) this is the gear in question it has 2 parts the little gear seems to have worn down so it spins and easily pulls apart Edited June 27, 2016 by RC4WD fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcoforever Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 The top of that black one should have teeth but has stripped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC4WD fan Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, norcoforever said: The top of that black one should have teeth but has stripped there was no metal shavings or any sign of fragments witch I would think there would be ? the larger gear have no signs of having any groves for teeth to sit in Edited June 27, 2016 by RC4WD fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcoforever Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Maybe not then hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover Man Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 The smaller gear is press fitted to the larger one. Would think its spun and made the hole in the larger gear to big. Clean all the grease off and use some bearing fit (Type of threadlock) to glue them back together. But i would email the pics off first to see what CML say a i would think thats faulty manufacturing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC4WD fan Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 50 minutes ago, Rover Man said: The smaller gear is press fitted to the larger one. Would think its spun and made the hole in the larger gear to big. Clean all the grease off and use some bearing fit (Type of threadlock) to glue them back together. But i would email the pics off first to see what CML say a i would think thats faulty manufacturing I thought it was press fitted I have sent the pics to CML see what happens I'm going to get a Hitec 7954 or 7955 as my LHS as both 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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